https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 04 Apr 2026 05:44:27 +0000 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:03:56 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=10577 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=228200&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#228200 Author: Peace
Subject: 10577
Posted: 11 October 2007 at 9:03pm

If it saves one child's life, it's totally worth it.]]> Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:03:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=228200&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#228200 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=227674&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#227674 Author: peanut butter
Subject: 10577
Posted: 11 October 2007 at 6:46am

I dont really agree with it. The majority of parents do not harm their children and I feel almost as though you get treated as guilty until proven innocent! I hear that plunket are meant to strip your child naked to check for any signs of abuse. We have our first plunket visit tomorrow and to be honest I am kind of anti it. I feel like I am being judged!

I think instead of checking up after babies born maybe they should look into the kind of people who are having babies!!!! Some should never start! and should never be able to have another.


Sorry, I am a bit outspoken here but that is just my opinion.   Never was too good at PC ]]> Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:46:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=227674&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#227674 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=227500&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#227500 Author: zerubbabel
Subject: 10577
Posted: 10 October 2007 at 7:55pm

I agree that this is an intrusion into our homes if this takes place. I feel it's another way the government is deciding what's best for our families and how we raise our children.

I personally don't think the system is a viable one anyway, as it would be close to impossible to have every family checked up on. Plus those people who are likely to abuse their children will probably do it anyway. Will these people have to make an appointment? You can't really expect people to allow them straight into their homes whenever they want. It's an invasion of privacy.

$5m can certainly be invested into the problem each year, but I don't think that's the solution. Maybe better education for new parents would help. I don't know.

That's just my view though.]]> Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:55:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=227500&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#227500 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210805&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210805 Author: Skyflame
Subject: 10577
Posted: 10 September 2007 at 11:57am

I would also like to know how they would plan to do these visits with parents who work full time? I dont know about other areas but from what I have seen they dont tend to work weekends and that would also be an intrusion on 'family time'.
Would they expect parents to take leave to meet their requirements?
I can see that there would be alot of problems with this that they would need to work out. I can see why they want to do it though.]]> Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:57:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210805&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210805 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210566&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210566 Author: Peanut
Subject: 10577
Posted: 09 September 2007 at 6:54pm

I am not a parent yet but personally feel that its quite an intrusion into family life. I can see where they are coming from but kinda resent the fact that they presume that I will hurt my child.

I think its puts more pressure on 1st time mums, when its pretty stressful anyway. I also agree with Lizzle, who is going to check and what makes them eligible to check up on others?

Interesting but not overly practical!]]> Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:54:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210566&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210566 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210537&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210537 Author: lizzle
Subject: 10577
Posted: 09 September 2007 at 5:25pm

and who is going to be doing these "checks"? I'm sorry but from anecdotes and my own experiences, I don;t think some plunket nurses are fit to judge. and is that what we are going feel like? Like people are deciding if we are fit to bring up our children? I don't know! I think the idea is intersting and could be merit-worthy, just need more info before I endorse it.]]> Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:25:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210537&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210537 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210492&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210492 Author: Maya
Subject: 10577
Posted: 09 September 2007 at 1:52pm

I agree Liz, I quite openly admitted when the gremlins were smaller that I didn't like them very much coz that's how I felt, but I did get some funny looks from random Plunket nurses and doctors on our various trips to Starship coz they automatically assumed that coz I was having bonding issues I therefore wanted to hurt the gremlins, when in fact it was just the opposite, I felt nothing at all full stop.

I think the proposal is good in theory, but so hard to put into practise. I know a woman who didn't register her third child's birth coz she didn't want CYFS asking questions so for all intents and purposes the child didn't exist. And at risk families tend to be more transient in lifestyle and move around a lot so at what point would someone notice that the children had missed a check or two, and would they even be able to find them. Not to mention people who move and transfer to a new provider but forget to update the old one so have the checks done somewhere else and then the old provider thinks they've missed one and so on.]]> Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:52:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210492&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210492 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210485&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210485 Author: lizzle
Subject: 10577
Posted: 09 September 2007 at 1:35pm

i think what also needs to happen is that mums and dads who are feeling under pressure, and about to "snap" can admit to this and get help, rather than made to feel like bad parents and worry that CYPS will take their kids. I mean, i remember a post earlier saying "i feel like hurting him" - how many people could admit this in real life with out feeling in danger of losing their kids. i know most of the things I feel b=about the kids at times i would never admit publically]]> Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:35:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210485&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210485 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210375&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210375 Author: AnnC
Subject: 10577
Posted: 08 September 2007 at 10:24pm

as a third time mum I always used Plunket as I like to know my child is ok and growing and do what they are spose to..

I hear ya James - but they can tell when asked why they don;t use the service why... I have a very good friend who doesn't use plunket cause their baby was very sick from an early age and so was always seeing a pead so I guess they would be a case that could 'innocently' get reported. I think they have alot of fine tuning to do before passing it as law.]]> Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:24:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210375&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210375 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210344&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210344 Author: james
Subject: 10577
Posted: 08 September 2007 at 9:29pm

its good in theroy but if you dont use any service say your a second time mum and you dont feel you need it and you get reporte then what ]]> Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:29:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210344&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210344 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210306&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210306 Author: AnnC
Subject: 10577
Posted: 08 September 2007 at 8:17pm

to what i read its alot like what plunket is doing now but... if you don't let plunket come to visit then you will get reported. So in my understanding thats ok.]]> Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:17:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210306&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210306 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210304&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210304 Author: busymum
Subject: 10577
Posted: 08 September 2007 at 8:02pm

I'm interested to know what you all think of this proposal by the Children's Commission. I get where they are coming from but IMO it comes across to parents as quite threatening. What are your views, are you in support or against? What would be better?]]> Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:02:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10577&PID=210304&title=compulsory-child-checks-etc#210304