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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : Well she seems to settle great...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18254">FionaS</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 July 2008 at 12:27pm<br /><br />Well she seems to settle great for a nap and sleep 2 hours one day and then refuse to sleep (despite seeming tired) the next so perhaps we are at the begining stages of cutting it out.  It's caught me off guard!  Naps used to be sooooooo easy.<br /><br />We are seeing Dr Bartle at the sleep well clinic tomorrow although I don't know how much help it will be as SimoneF's friend who is a sleep scientist doesn't seem to think it is a sleep disorder.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We are paying the guy $185 so he better have some ideas that work!!<br /><br />The ladies at Small Wonders (who do routines etc) seem to think the night waking is just a behaviour she has learned and enjoys.  If it is, grrr for having such a stubborn child!  <br /><br />Who knows!  We all slept through (after some demazin) last night so feel better.  Mind you, sleeping through meant a 6.30 start which we haven't had in yonks and now nap refusal.  <br /><br />Perhaps, she has changed and gone from having high sleep needs as a baby to having lower sleep needs now...who knows!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : i would try dropping the day sleep...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 July 2008 at 8:52am<br /><br />i would try dropping the day sleep and perhaps sit on the couch reading some books or watch a dvd.....just for some quiet time...??<br />then bring her bedtime forward <br /><br />good luck...i hope you find something that works for you both soon!!!!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : I would try dropping the day sleep...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 July 2008 at 11:11pm<br /><br /><P align=left>I would try dropping the day sleep and putting her to bed earlier/</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : Xanda at the moment is dropping...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4927">fairsk8</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 July 2008 at 3:17pm<br /><br />Xanda at the moment is dropping his day sleep.  Somedays he will have one and other days he does not want one.  <br /><br />On the days when he does not have a nap, he has a large arvo tea and then a  bath at 4pm and then tea at 5.30pm and in bed by 6.15pm.  <br /><br />The reason he has a large arvo tea and a bath so early is because he usually falls asleep at 5pm on the floor in the middle of the lounge and I just scoop him up and put him in his bed.<br /><br />It is hard to deal with though as he is usually super grumpy and frustrates me.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : Oh and Kelpa - I have always believed...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18254">FionaS</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 3:11pm<br /><br />Oh and Kelpa - I have always believed sleep breeds sleep too...until last week!<br /><br />She gets up around 8 ATM so her nap time is around 12.30/1.  <br /><br />Last week she slept well at night on the days she slept late in the afternoon. Go figure!<br /><br />We've always had such a good strong routine which is partly why I'm so confuzzled i.e. dooolally!<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : Yeah I always said I&amp;#039;d get...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18254">FionaS</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 3:09pm<br /><br />Yeah I always said I'd get her to do a quiet activity in her room when she dropped her day sleep but I imagined that would be nearer to 2 as she's always need so much day sleep.  Not sure if she would understand the idea of quiet activities in her room yet!<br /><br />Zzzzz.  Ah sleep.  Who'd of thought it was so hard to get.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : Hmmm being a routine Mum and fully...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=12591">Kelpa</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 3:09pm<br /><br />Hmmm being a routine Mum and fully believing that it is important for day sleeps right up until they around three.... for growing and cells and all that guff....I would not be giving it up but more letting her know that she is having one and thats all there is to it...sleeps begets sleep.....<br /><br />She is probably not sleeping terribly soundly on those nights as maybe too tired to get into nice load of REM type sleep????<br /><br />I would say.. reading off Mothercare stuff......If she wakes between 6:30 and 7:30am...she should be back in bed between 10am and 12:30 (no later and looking at grizzle..tired signs still) for 2 hour nap...then in bed at 6:30 - 7pm.<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 2:55pm<br /><br />when they are getting ready to give up their day sleeps they go thru a stage of sometimes needing it and sometimes not... it can be tricky getting the balance right tho.  MYSELF I would be inclined to just see how it goes with no sleep and put her to bed earler if she goes without... ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : I think I&amp;#039;d give Andie&amp;#039;s...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10440">katie1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 2:54pm<br /><br />I think I'd give Andie's thought a go and then reassess.  Especially since you are noticing a pattern between day sleeps and bad night sleep.I would defintiely try and make her do a quiet activity at the old day sleep time though just so that you also get a rest.  Probably easier said than done though. <br />Good luck!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : Yeah she was a dreadful sleeper...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18254">FionaS</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 2:43pm<br /><br />Yeah she was a dreadful sleeper as a baby then we had 8 months were she napped like clockwork and slept 14 hours every single night without fail.  She really was a perfect sleeper during that period.<br /><br />I've emailed with the sleep store person and with a sleep specialist and they were both at a loss really!  <br /><br />And yes, doolally is the right word for it!  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : Isn&amp;#039;t there a lady in auckland...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=425">mum2paris</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 2:39pm<br /><br />Isn't there a lady in auckland that helps with sleep routines etc.. I can't remember exact details but remember it in treasures not too long ago - i would say with all the sleep probs that Elle seems to have - this lady might be beneficial. I think you've tried and tried and tried Fiona, and by now i would have given up.. maybe it's time to get some professional help with it to get it over and done with once and for all.... this must be driving you doolally<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley29.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley29.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley29.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : Hmmm I don&amp;#039;t think I would...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10219">KH25</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 2:31pm<br /><br />Hmmm I don't think I would stop her day sleeps cold turkey - I think they normally may go a couple of days without and then need one to catch up.  I personally wouldn't let Ashleigh go to sleep any later than around 2.45 as it would upset her night routine.  So myself - I would probably trial a day or 2 without sleeps then make a decision whether she needs one to catch up and see how she was behaving at nights <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : You say she gets very tired when...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4741">yummymummy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 2:16pm<br /><br />You say she gets very tired when she hasn't had a nap - when does that happen? Late afternoon?<br />I'd be inclined to try for 1 short nap when she gets really tired - maybe 30min to tie her over and then see what happens at night. But only if she's keen - otherwise, I'd let her be and let her go to bed earlier in the evening and sleep it off <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : Thanks Andie.  :) ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18254">FionaS</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 2:11pm<br /><br />Thanks Andie.  :)]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : I think I&amp;#039;d be tempted to...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10436">Andie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 2:08pm<br /><br />I think I'd be tempted to try a week without day sleeps and see what happens.  ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[What would YOU do? : As you know last week Elle was...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18254">FionaS</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18717<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 June 2008 at 2:01pm<br /><br />As you know last week Elle was trying very hard to refuse her nap.  Before last week she had a very regular 2 to3 hour nap.  <br /><br />Last week, on the days she only had a short, late afternoon nap (i.e. 3.30pm), or not nap at all, she slept quite well at night.  Prior to that, anything less than 1.5 hours day sleep would’ve resulted in night terrors and a bad night.  <br /><br />On the days she slept in the middle of the day (after much screaming), she was awake half the night.<br /><br />She gets VERY tired through, rubbing her eyes, grizzling, yawning etc the day but would YOU, if it was your child, just remove the day sleep???<br /><br />Last night she was awake playing for 5.5 hours which is why I need to make some serious decisions.  It is getting ridiculous.<br />]]>
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