https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 04 Apr 2026 00:34:24 +0000 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:56:32 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=19530 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=458571&title=eeek-starting-solids#458571 Author: Tiff
Subject: 19530
Posted: 03 August 2008 at 9:56pm

Maya wrote: The snotty, snuffly thing can be reflux related, not sure why but it is a reflux symptom.

Thanks Emma!! Rohann's exactly like that and now you've just told me why!]]> Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:56:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=458571&title=eeek-starting-solids#458571 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451958&title=eeek-starting-solids#451958 Author: Maya
Subject: 19530
Posted: 28 July 2008 at 7:30pm

The snotty, snuffly thing can be reflux related, not sure why but it is a reflux symptom.

It could be the pectin in the apple skin coz commercially made apples don't have the skins removed before they are pureed. I know both gremlins had trouble with that when they were really young, they would get guts ache and nasty nappies from canned apples but were fine with peeled, home made apples.

There's prob not much point in having testing done at this stage, after one year is most accurate but you can get it done between 8-12 mths if you ask for it. They do have to have had a exposure tho so negative doesn't mean definitely not allergic, it could just mean they haven't been exposed. But the good thing is the longer you can avoid exposure the greater the chance they will avoid the allergy completely. Gremlins had some exposure via breastmilk to ten weeks, then nil exposure till 10 mths when they had a negative RAST/skin prick and we were able to introduce dairy successfully, whereas Maya had some exposure thru breastmilk as a baby, plus some formula feeds between birth and 6 weeks, then continued exposure thru breastmilk till 10 mths when she was officially diagnosed and put on Neocate, and it took her till 3 1/2 to outgrow her allergy.]]> Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:30:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451958&title=eeek-starting-solids#451958 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451581&title=eeek-starting-solids#451581 Author: cuppatea
Subject: 19530
Posted: 28 July 2008 at 1:22pm

I remember I wrote the booklet out for the june mummies ages ago so here it is.

This might take up a bit of space

From my allergy booklet

Food most likely to cause a reaction

Cereals and Grains
Breads, breakfast cereals, barley, wheat and rye flours and products made from these. i.e biscuits, cakes, pastries, triticale

Egg and related foods
Eggs, scrambled eggs, quiche

Fruit and vegetables
bananas, grapefruit, kiwifruit, lemons, limes, mandarins, mushrooms, onions, oranges, strawberries and other berries including their flavourings e.g toppings, tomatoes.

Meat fish and protein foods
fish and shell fish, all types nuts and seeds and their products - all types including cashews, hazelnuts, brazil nuts, almonds, walnuts, sesame seeds, poppy seed, sunflower seeds, tahini, hummus, nut butter, marzipan peanuts and peanut products.

Milk and diary
Cow's milk and all milk products, goats milk and goats milk products, lactoacidophilus products, sheeps milk and sheep milk products, soy milk and soy milk products.

Other
carob, chocolate, gelatin, herbs, honey, jam, jelly, junket, rennet, spices, stock cubes, yeast extract.

Food colours
artificial: 102,107,110, 122-129, 133, 142, 151, 155
natural: 160b
flavour enhancers, hydrolysed vegetable protein (HVP), monosodium glutamate 621, textured vegetable protein (TVP)

Preservatives
Anti-oxidants 310-321
benzoates 210-218
nitrates 249-252
nitrites 249-252
propionates 280-283
sorbates 200-203
sulphites 220-228



Foods least likely to cause a reaction

Cereals
ground rice, rice, rice cereal (plain unmalted), plain rice cakes, plain rice crackers, rice flour, rice pasta (egg free)

Fruits and vegetables
Apple, pear, potato, pumpkin, sweet potato (kumura), zuchinni (courgette)

Milk and Diary
Breast milk (rarely allergies can be passed through breastmilk and mothers diet may need modification)

Other cooking aids
Bicarbonate of soda, refined oils such as olive, canola, safflower, sunflower. Glucose, golder syrup, maize cornflour, milk free margarine, rice syrup (pure), sugar, wheat free baking powder, yeast (bakers/dried)


Basically the booklet says to introduce low allergy ones first and then anything not on the high allergy list and leave all the stuff on high allergy list until 12+months. But that is only neccessary if you think the baby is likely to have allergies, otherwise you can just follow the plunket guidelines for the ages to introduce each new food, it also says about introducing one food at a time so any reaction can be quickly traced and to start with a small amount of a new food and gradually increase each day if there are no symptoms

Hope that helps and thank god I can touch type]]> Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:22:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451581&title=eeek-starting-solids#451581 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451575&title=eeek-starting-solids#451575 Author: cuppatea
Subject: 19530
Posted: 28 July 2008 at 1:14pm

We stuck to apples and pears as the only fruits for a long time. Veges were kumara, potato, pumpkin and courgette for under 6 months then other root vegetables after 6 months. I stuck religiously to the 4 day rule. Spencer had a reaction to parsnips which are considered safe to I am cautious of all food just in case.
The reaction to the mango could be a chemical reaction, Spencer had what I thought was an allergic reaction to strawberry but it didn't come up on his allergy test so doc said it was a chemical one (at the time I forgot to ask what that meant). With that reaction his face came out in red blotches rather than the classic all over rash that he has had with all the other reactions.
We didn't do the skin prick test until 12 months.
Like Kerri-Anne said you should have got a booklet with the neocate of the safe foods, ring 0800 NEOCATE and ask for it if you don't have it already. I just followed that and cross referenced it with the plunket/watties guide.]]> Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:14:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451575&title=eeek-starting-solids#451575 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451451&title=eeek-starting-solids#451451 Author: aimeejoy
Subject: 19530
Posted: 28 July 2008 at 11:07am

Well by this morning I thought I was over-reacting last night, but ewww she had the foulest nappy I've ever changed this morning I had just been doing one food at a time, but got stuck and only had apple and mango jar. Am kinda tempted to try it again to see what happens, as I cant get a docs appt for such a long time, but think we'll move to homemade veges instead.

]]> Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:07:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451451&title=eeek-starting-solids#451451 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451357&title=eeek-starting-solids#451357 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 19530
Posted: 28 July 2008 at 9:09am

the pepti jnr book we got had the lowest allergen foods..do you have the book that came with the neocate? it has a list..if you dont i will find it for you... pear as Andie said is the bes tone...our paed said one food at a time 10 days apart(i have been doing 7 days..so we have started with the watties foods that are just one food in a tin(though he suggested homemade as it's often the skins they react to) so far E has had pears, kumera (and i think low allergen was potato and pumpkin...) and apple and pumpkin and sweetcorn and banana... we havent tried baby rice as doc said nothing but fruit meat and vege till 1.]]> Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:09:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451357&title=eeek-starting-solids#451357 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451350&title=eeek-starting-solids#451350 Author: Andie
Subject: 19530
Posted: 28 July 2008 at 9:05am

Ooohhhh good luck with the solids! It's a huge issue with allergy bubs isn't it. Far out time has flown if wee Greer is already into solids!! Um - pear is the safest of the 'safe foods' from what I remember. And bear in mind that my head is a little foggy these days but I think veges were safer than fruits in general, especially root veg. Thinking back to what Ella had no trouble with: 4mth farex (she's never had the other ones... in fact, we still have a 4mth pear & banana one in use!), pears, apples, bananas were fine for her thankfully but not for everyone, zucchini, pumpkin, kumara, carrots - purees can be made with Neocate to give them extra goodness. Once meat is involved, Lamb is a good option to start with. Um, I'll try to rack my brains some more later! ]]> Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:05:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451350&title=eeek-starting-solids#451350 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451186&title=eeek-starting-solids#451186 Author: aimeejoy
Subject: 19530
Posted: 27 July 2008 at 9:22pm

So we have started Greer on solids and she seems to be getting into it now. So far she has had pears and baby rice and been fine with both. She had some apple and mango tonight (which she had tried a couple of times before), but she got red patches on the sides of her head above her ears, and red spots (flat not raised welts) around one eye, and she was scratching at her nose and eyes. Was about half an hour before it started to go away. What do you think?

Please remind me of the 'safe' foods, as I'm starting to freak out a bit now

And with testing, how old were your bubs? If they havent already been exposed to the food through either breast milk or eaten themselves, does that mean they may still be allergic to it, but because they havent developed the antibodies yet it may come back negative on testing?

And just one more question... since day one Greer has been a snotty, snuffly baby and she sneezes a lot (several times a day) and is always rubbing at her nose and eyes. Dust mite allergy or nothing?

Our usual GP who I love is away for another 3 weeks and its not worth going to see the others, so your advice is much appreciated.

Edited by aimeejoy]]> Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:22:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19530&PID=451186&title=eeek-starting-solids#451186