OHbaby! Forums : Whos got PND or PTSD? https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 04 Apr 2026 13:27:49 +0000 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:21:49 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=22323 <![CDATA[OHbaby! Forums]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : yay that is great ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1164341&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1164341 Author: amme_eilyk
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Posted: 28 September 2010 at 9:21pm

yay that is great]]> Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:21:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1164341&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1164341 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Awesome mummytobesept08, sounds...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1164272&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1164272 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
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Posted: 28 September 2010 at 7:35pm

Awesome mummytobesept08, sounds like a lovely lovely day ]]> Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:35:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1164272&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1164272 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : thanks amme Like I hoped, I...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1163472&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1163472 Author: mummytobesep08
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Posted: 27 September 2010 at 8:52pm

thanks amme

Like I hoped, I felt heaps better on the actual day of Charli's birthday. We went out to breakfast and had a party for her friends in the afternoon. It was an awesome arvo- so many kids and babies and their mums and dads enjoying the sun and food and music...we all had a great time and I think that's helped with how I've felt about things too- we were able to CELEBRATE Charli's birth and put the other stuff aside for a bit. ]]> Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:52:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1163472&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1163472 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : that must be really tough mummytobesept08....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1160840&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1160840 Author: amme_eilyk
Subject: 22323
Posted: 24 September 2010 at 10:55am

that must be really tough mummytobesept08.]]> Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:55:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1160840&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1160840 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Not sure if anyone comes into...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1160526&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1160526 Author: mummytobesep08
Subject: 22323
Posted: 23 September 2010 at 10:12pm

Not sure if anyone comes into this particular thread but thought I'd post in here anyway,

Today has been a bloody hard day! My little girl turns 2 in two days. We are all very excited and I've planned this party, doing decorations and loot bag and fairy cakes and all those wonderful girly party things...I'm happy to celebrate this but it's bittersweet and I wonder if anyone else ever feels like this?

I had a really tough time with DD's birth. It was hands down the worst thing that ever happened to me (but the best as well because it brought DD into the world)- it's confusing!

I guess today it's been hard because I keep thinking "this day two years ago..." every time I look at the clock. It brings back memories quite strongly.

I know by the time Charli-Rose's birthday comes round I will be over it and will be smiley and happy and celebrating...so maybe it's just tonight that will be hard and I'm just wanting to acknowledge somewhere that...that it's bittersweet ]]> Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:12:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1160526&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1160526 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Wee update from me: DH and I have...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1149288&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1149288 Author: mummytobesep08
Subject: 22323
Posted: 10 September 2010 at 12:57pm

Wee update from me: DH and I have been given the all clear to start TTC soon! Well, sort of. Not from the mental health side of things, but from the physical side of things with recovering from my little ones birth. So exciting! It'll be about 6 months til we can try **easily** but it's good news to us!

Thought we might have been super lucky this month as I'm almost a week late, but test was a big fat negative so I think it's the stress from the earthquake that has made AF disappear. Probably a good thing anyway because the Quake has made the PND/PTSD side of things heaps worse I hope any other chch mums who come in here are safe and sound and have somewhere warm and safe to live in!]]> Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:57:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1149288&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1149288 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Yay for TTC nathansmummy! ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1128600&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1128600 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 17 August 2010 at 3:42pm

Yay for TTC nathansmummy! ]]> Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:42:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1128600&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1128600 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Yeah I&#039;m trying to get pregnant...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1128459&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1128459 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 17 August 2010 at 1:29pm

Yeah I'm trying to get pregnant after 6mths so I think it will probably be too early but will wean off then too. SO hope I don't have a relapse!]]> Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:29:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1128459&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1128459 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : escadachic I can&#039;t believe...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1128172&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1128172 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 17 August 2010 at 9:07am

escadachic I can't believe they aren't taking you that seriously. That is soooo wrong

Sucks that you haven't found the right medication or dose. That definitely might help those feelings you are having. Is there any way you can change your support worker?

nathansmummy, AWESOME that you have found the right dose!!!!! I am still on 20mg and it seems to be right for me. MMH have said that I should be on it 6 months after I feel "back to normal". So I hope to try and wean myself off maybe when he is one???? The idea scares me!!! ]]> Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:07:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1128172&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1128172 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : escadachic wrote: But it...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1128014&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1128014 Author: mummytobesep08
Subject: 22323
Posted: 16 August 2010 at 9:56pm

Originally posted by escadachic escadachic wrote:


But it almost seems as if, because I don't take any action, she doesn't seem overly concerned. It's like she is sick of my negative mindset and not seeing me improving. ...
It's like, though I had mentioned in the past how stressed I was and wanting to lash out at Sophie, she didn't take me seriously until I said I'd wanted to punch her.


Far out hun, that really, really sucks! It's hard enough telling anyone about those feelings but to have it downplayed must be really tough
I feel for you that you don't have a a support worker who seems like they get you. Feeling like they are getting sick of you is really not helpful! You certainly won't be one of the only ones who isn't totally better and for a lot of mums the journey gets worse before it gets better. Keep asking for help though hun and keep letting them know how you are feeling. Who knows maybe hearing how you felt like punching her actually helped cuz it sort of shows the support worker more how you are feeling?

Nathansmummy- really glad to hear that your meds are sorted I think for some people once the meds are sorted it is so much easier to do the other sort of 'self-help' things. It's like the meds can give you a step up so that you can start doing all the other good things that can help.

For me I would definitely not give that much credit to meds (except for the ones that make me sleep- they have been a life saver!) but medication lucky number 13 helped enough that I was able to exercise and make more of an effort to do something nice for myself each day and it felt like they gave me space enough in my head that I could work on making my thoughts more positive ]]> Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:56:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1128014&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1128014 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Are you seeing a Psychiatrist...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127826&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127826 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 16 August 2010 at 7:58pm

Are you seeing a Psychiatrist through MMH to help you find the right medication and dose? I don't see that you will improve without it! And you may end up hurting yourself or someone else... I can't believe they are not taking you more seriously

Edited by nathansmummy]]> Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:58:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127826&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127826 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Oh I&#039;m not on medication...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127760&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127760 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 16 August 2010 at 7:06pm

Oh I'm not on medication btw. I haven't found anything that works for me.

But thankx for all the lovely things you all said. It's nice to have some people to share this with, other then our poor DP's/DH's/DF's.]]> Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:06:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127760&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127760 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : mummytobesep08 wrote:Can I...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127756&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127756 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 16 August 2010 at 6:59pm

Originally posted by mummytobesep08 mummytobesep08 wrote:

Can I ask, does your MMH worker know that sometimes you feel like hurting yourself?


Yeah I do mention it to her. But it almost seems as if, because I don't take any action, she doesn't seem overly concerned. It's like she is sick of my negative mindset and not seeing me improving. Sometimes I find her rather unhelpful. Other times, I don't mind her. It's like, the only time she decided to try get me more support is when I mentioned I had slapped Sophie in the face and that I had really wanted to punch her in the face a different time and I couldn't say for sure if I would or wouldn't have done that if I wasn't driving. It's like, though I had mentioned in the past how stressed I was and wanting to lash out at Sophie, she didn't take me seriously until I said I'd wanted to punch her.]]> Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:59:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127756&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127756 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Yeah I second that post from mummytobe...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127712&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127712 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 16 August 2010 at 6:18pm

Yeah I second that post from mummytobe - please do tell MMH about what is happening with your baby and how you are feeling about hurting yourself - it is really important information. Also, what are they doing with your medication... are they upping your dose or changing you to another dose?

I think I might be finally on the right dose! I didn't want to speak too soon because it's been weird lately. First week I had upped my dose I had DH home on sick leave, 2nd week I am sick so I am getting extra sleep at the moment. But I haven't yelled at DH at all even when he's been extremely unreasonable to me. I have walked away and stayed away from him until we've both calmed down instead of going into a full on argument. And I've even taken the baby away from the situation if I've needed to. In other words - I'm not losing my temper as much or losing the plot really at all! Of course it's early days but I just feel good about telling DH how I feel about something and then walking away and being calm about the whole thing and leaving it to him as to how he responds. People have always given me this advice but it feels like for the first time I've been able to carry it out.

So anyway back to you - just wondering about your medication because I'm thinking that it may be the reason why things are not well-managed in terms of your PND. (It annoys me that they just call it depression as if hormones and having a baby doesn't have an impact on your mental health!)]]> Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:18:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127712&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127712 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Hear hear to everything mummytobesept08...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127161&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127161 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 16 August 2010 at 8:53am

Hear hear to everything mummytobesept08 said. I hope you are feeling a bit better today escadachic.

BIG ]]> Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:53:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127161&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127161 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : aw escadachic :-( Sorry to hear...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127091&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127091 Author: mummytobesep08
Subject: 22323
Posted: 15 August 2010 at 11:27pm

aw escadachic :-( Sorry to hear things are really tough right now. I wish there were something I could do better than sending you s!

I agree, a depressive mindset is annoyingly "unproductive". What you should remember though is that this is not your fault. You didn't chose for this to happen and unfortunately it's not something you can snap out of. You sound like a pretty amazing mum, because you want to be better than this. It can take a lot, a LOT, to be able to change how you feel but even little things help. Right now it sounds like you need a break! And some support and encouragement- so do keep posting on here because even though it feels like it, you aren't alone

That feeling of wanting to run away seems to run through a lot of us here. And yep a lot of our DPs/DHs get a lot of sh!t directed at them too. Usually they are the one adult we see the most and some days the only other adult we see, so it's hard not to take things out on them.

Can I ask, does your MMH worker know that sometimes you feel like hurting yourself? I don't wanna sound like a cliche (a LOT of us feel that way sometimes), just wanted to make sure that someone else knows because those thoughts can get really scary and it's important to have someone else who knows that they are happening, just to help keep you safe.

I'm surprised to hear they said it's not PND anymore...usually it's considered by most to be post-natal til at least a year- some even say 2 years. PND is a type of depression so it's not that different except the funding and services are different- MMH is funded til bubs is 12 months old though so don't worry too much about that yet.

Woops its almost 11.30, I should get to bed. I hope you've managed to get some good sleep by the time you read this and hopefully you'll feel a bit better in the morning. And I have my fingers crossed that miss Annabelle's teeth will feel better asap! Things are so much easier when they're feeding properly!

Hang in there ]]> Sun, 15 Aug 2010 23:27:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127091&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127091 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Man I feel like I am losing the...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127086&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127086 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 15 August 2010 at 11:00pm

Man I feel like I am losing the plot more and more lately. Not cool

I yelled at Annabelle several times last night. As she's teething and having a horrible time with it and denying one side with regards to BFing. She's not too happy atm. I yelled the 'F' word very loudly and dropped her on the bed(not in a bad way I mean), just swore and put her down and felt really crap and anxious and just wanted to hurt myself and run away. I hate how I just so don't cope sometimes and get so easily stressed. I don't want to be like this. I hate being like this. I wish I could just stop letting my emotions overtake me and just have some control and start seeing things as they really are, instead of having this depressive mindset, which is very unproductive and not helping. I was feeling rather crap last night, as no-one who was at my place heard me lose the plot and they were all happy and chatting upstairs when I came up. And my best friend asked if I was ok and typically I lied and said I was, though I so wasn't. Sometimes I just lose all tolerance and want to leave DP and take my girls with me while he's not here. I get so anti him sometimes. I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling like this. It's seems a lot of us suffering PND want to just leave sometimes. MMH lady says it's no longer classified as PND, it's depression, which she suspects I've had a long time. Well yeah, most people with PND do tend to have a history of depression, it doesn't take a scientist to work that out. It makes me wonder if that's code for, you're no longer classified as having PND, so you can't have MMH visits any more. But that could just be me taking things out of context and twisting what's been said in my head again.]]> Sun, 15 Aug 2010 23:00:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1127086&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1127086 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Sounds like the Sleep Sense Programme....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1121621&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1121621 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 08 August 2010 at 11:19pm

Sounds like the Sleep Sense Programme. I have it for you to read and consider if you're interested... just PM me and I'll email it through to you (need your email address).

But sounds like you might not be into CIO solutions which is fine. There is another thing called the No-Cry Sleep Solution but I don't know anything about it...

A coffee group for PND sufferers sounds great - but would anyone else be interested?]]> Sun, 08 Aug 2010 23:19:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1121621&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1121621 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : 1st_Time_Preggies wrote:My...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1121175&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1121175 Author: Babe
Subject: 22323
Posted: 08 August 2010 at 10:54am

Originally posted by 1st_Time_Preggies 1st_Time_Preggies wrote:

My hubby wants us to start doing CIO soon but I soooo don't want to    Even though he is already six months old, I still think he is too young to know that he has to sleep through the night, and not get fed if he is hungry!


We just did CIO with Tyler and hes 5mo. I pulled his day routine really tight and fed him every 3&1/2hrs to make sure he was getting enough feeds during the day (approx 6 inc DF @ 9pm) then when he woke up at 3 or 4am we checked him then left him to cry which took almost 2 hours the first night!! An hour for the next 3 nights then nothing. It was so hard but worth it in the end coz we're all getting a good patch of uninterrupted sleep (DF at 9pm then sleeping through til after 6am) which is really important and everyone is alot happier including Tyler. I don't do good on no sleep it throws the door wide open for PND to sneak in!!
Anyway dunno if that helps but there it is ]]> Sun, 08 Aug 2010 10:54:57 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1121175&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1121175 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : nathansmummy wrote:Lindsey...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1121085&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1121085 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 08 August 2010 at 8:03am

Originally posted by nathansmummy nathansmummy wrote:

Lindsey I hear you on the lonely thing. Since having Nathan I've become even more isolated than I was before with fewer people to talk to about what is *really* going on in my life and the troubles I am facing. It's really hard. I've always needed someone to talk to for support so I guess sometimes I talk to DH but not nearly as much as I need, and no one to talk to about any problems I face with him! So I guess it gets bottled up inside. Or I'm so busy with being a mum I don't have time to reflect on what's going on inside me.

I love being a mother - I love my son so much - but it is such a huge psychological adjustment for some reason!


Hear hear to the above    I am a talker and sometimes feel like there is noone out there that I can truly open up to. That is why I love these forums

Oh and yes I meant a coffee group in Akl for the ladies here with PND.]]> Sun, 08 Aug 2010 08:03:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1121085&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1121085 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Linzy wrote:Plus I don&#039;t...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1121084&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1121084 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 08 August 2010 at 8:01am

Originally posted by Linzy Linzy wrote:

Plus I don't feel like I have anyonw to talk to about Ben's bad sleeping as none of my friends seem to have the same problems. Sometimes it feels like people think it is my own fault since I won't do CIO or CC.


I hear you! I swear all the babies in my coffee group are pretty much sleeping through the night now, so I don't talk about the fact that mine isn't! My hubby wants us to start doing CIO soon but I soooo don't want to    Even though he is already six months old, I still think he is too young to know that he has to sleep through the night, and not get fed if he is hungry!]]> Sun, 08 Aug 2010 08:01:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1121084&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1121084 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Lindsey I hear you on the lonely...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1121071&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1121071 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 07 August 2010 at 11:27pm

Lindsey I hear you on the lonely thing. Since having Nathan I've become even more isolated than I was before with fewer people to talk to about what is *really* going on in my life and the troubles I am facing. It's really hard. I've always needed someone to talk to for support so I guess sometimes I talk to DH but not nearly as much as I need, and no one to talk to about any problems I face with him! So I guess it gets bottled up inside. Or I'm so busy with being a mum I don't have time to reflect on what's going on inside me.

I love being a mother - I love my son so much - but it is such a huge psychological adjustment for some reason!]]> Sat, 07 Aug 2010 23:27:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1121071&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1121071 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : I hear you ladies about the poor...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1120981&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1120981 Author: myfullhouse
Subject: 22323
Posted: 07 August 2010 at 8:55pm

I hear you ladies about the poor sleep. Ben has been sleeping badly all year with his teething, but we had a slightly better night last night so I am feeling a little better.
I have been feeling quite lonely since I haven't caught up with my coffee group in 2wks due to us being sick. Plus I don't feel like I have anyonw to talk to about Ben's bad sleeping as none of my friends seem to have the same problems. Sometimes it feels like people think it is my own fault since I won't do CIO or CC. Mum has been great though and listens when I need to talk.

Ok think I might head off soon and try and get any early night.
Hope everyone has a good night]]> Sat, 07 Aug 2010 20:55:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1120981&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1120981 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : 1st time preggies: did you mean...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1120906&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1120906 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 07 August 2010 at 7:39pm

1st time preggies: did you mean a coffee group for mums with PND or general?

]]> Sat, 07 Aug 2010 19:39:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1120906&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1120906 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Annabelle has been being difficult...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1120710&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1120710 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 07 August 2010 at 2:25pm

Annabelle has been being difficult with her sleeping lately too. Like waking sometimes as early as 3:31am or 5:30am and thinking it's awake time and not going back to sleep for 2 hrs! Today I got a bit over her being difficult and yelled at her to shut up. Very loudly    And DP came downstairs to see what was up and tell me not to yell at her. Yeah like that helps! I was like, I'm sleep deprived, sorry I lose the plot sometimes!

Hugs to everyone who needs them. ]]> Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:25:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1120710&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1120710 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : 6am is a reasonable time for any...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1120482&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1120482 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 07 August 2010 at 1:57am

6am is a reasonable time for any baby to wake up - obviously not to us adults - but to them. So of course he'd be hungry. Sometimes men don't know much about these things IMO.

Sometimes these days happen. Vent away...!]]> Sat, 07 Aug 2010 01:57:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1120482&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1120482 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : What a crap day today DS woke...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1120162&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1120162 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 06 August 2010 at 5:13pm

What a crap day today

DS woke at 5.30am, talked to himself till 6am and then started crying. I figured he was hungry, but instead of getting up to feed him, I ended up having an argument with hubby for half an hour about whether I should. He thinks it is time we let him CIO, because apparently he has to learn that he doesn't dictate everything. I so disagree, cause I think he is still young (6 months) and doesn't know that it is too early to eat, or that he isn't "allowed" to feed because he should be sleeping.

Eventually at 6.30am I got up and fed him one side, thinking he might go back to sleep. No way was that happening. So we started our day. I then offered him the other side (he always takes both) and he refused! And has been off all day since. Slept till 3pm this afternoon, and now I don't know whether to give him an afternoon nap or not. I am so unsure of myself today!!!

TOTALLY sucks.
Sorry, just needed to vent ]]> Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:13:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1120162&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1120162 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Yes it is Amme. I was better...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1116558&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1116558 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 August 2010 at 9:26pm

Yes it is Amme. I was better with DS today. He has started crawling and I am exhausted running after him - he is into everything he's not supposed to be into (not interested in his toys but in exploring the house) and he is everywhere! So I used up a lot of energy trying to sort out stuff that was on ground level but there are still things he can get into that we need to do something about asap. That, along with sleep deprivation at the moment makes me very short with him. But today I managed and coped pretty well after putting together a bit of a strategy.

I can't wait until I have seen my new GP and have been referred to places. I just felt like I couldn't manage yesterday and had nooo support and no one to call on - that is tough!]]> Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:26:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1116558&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1116558 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : kelly,i hope they up your support...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115856&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115856 Author: amme_eilyk
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Posted: 02 August 2010 at 11:25am

kelly,i hope they up your support to get where you need to be. I also want to say your are not alone in your feelings, I feel much the same as you do a lot of the time except I dont have the baby yet. I find myself negative thinking, yelling a lot and feeling like i need to hit something or someone. it is the scariest thing when you no longer feel in control and feel like you have become someone other than yourself.]]> Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:25:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115856&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115856 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : It is so hard isn&#039;t it!!!!!!!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115721&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115721 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 August 2010 at 8:41am

It is so hard isn't it!!!!!!! I think people who don't have PND or haven't experienced depression/anxiety etc just have NO idea and will never understand!

I am getting annoyed with my son at the moment too. He CRIES all day long pretty much. Just wants to be held, which is fine but held STANDING, I can't sit down! He is getting his first two teeth, so I understand WHY, but it still gets annoying!!! Yesterday I had enough and took him to the mall in the front pack and he was happy as larry!!!

I am off to family for a few days today. Am a bit nervous cause I have grumpy bum all by myself and have to make all the decisions alone!!! So silly cause I pretty much do that now, but it is always nice to have a sounding board in the form of my hubby. And to have him take over sometimes so I get some peace!

I hope you are both feeling better today.

Nathansmummy, maybe not start a full out support group, but just a meet up for mums, kinda like a coffee group? I would be keen! And quite happy to host ]]> Mon, 02 Aug 2010 08:41:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115721&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115721 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Yeah I totally agree re: chocolate...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115709&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115709 Author: nathansmummy
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Posted: 02 August 2010 at 8:23am

Yeah I totally agree re: chocolate ]]> Mon, 02 Aug 2010 08:23:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115709&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115709 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Yeah true about the negative thinking...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115638&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115638 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 August 2010 at 10:41pm

Yeah true about the negative thinking just being the depression. I wish depression was something that could just go away and never come back, but I'm told though it may come and go, it never goes completely. Doesn't help to me told that aye. I like the fantasy in my head better, that says it will go away one day and I'll be happy and positive and no more black dog following me. Yeah I was getting annoyed at my baby tonight too. I think it's just the teething making her grizzly. And here was I thinking I'd just buy an Amber Teething Necklace and put it on and in a few days no more teething worries. I was wrong damn it!    And hey, if you want, rather then calling me by my username, you can just call me by my real name, it's much shorter. It's Kelly. I find chocolate helps my depression sometimes    Pity there is no chocolate in the house. Oh well, I'll just eat some ice cream ]]> Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:41:57 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115638&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115638 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : E-chick (I keep forgetting the...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115626&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115626 Author: nathansmummy
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Posted: 01 August 2010 at 10:21pm

E-chick (I keep forgetting the spelling so I'm shortening it!): I think it's helpful to be able to see what we've picked up through our childhood that makes us who we are today and work on those things. But you also need to remember that much of this is "just the depression." A lot of that negativity is not you - it's the depression. If you can grasp that a bit more, it will help to relieve the feelings of guilt that you have.

Sure, you need to do something about it, but don't be too hard on yourself!

I had a terrible day today and I have to say I'm not coping. I don't have adequate support and my DH is unable to give me the support I need. So things are getting worse for me mentally and I am also worried about my son and the way I shouted at him (he's just a baby!) and felt like I couldn't manage today. I need help too. I wish the system would just bloody well hurry up.

So no - you are not alone... and I feel bad about myself too for not being able to cope better. I do really want help but there seems to be not much out there for me ]]> Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:21:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115626&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115626 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : 1st_Time_Preggies wrote:I felt...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115621&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115621 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 August 2010 at 10:12pm

Originally posted by 1st_Time_Preggies 1st_Time_Preggies wrote:

I felt the same as you nathansmummy! Talking for that long, and then just SILENCE. I found that a bit funny :-) And yes I don't really like that airy fairy stuff myself, think I would prefer a more social thing where we talk and get feedback.

Are you under Maternal Mental Health? They do an 8 week course that is apparently more practical. Not so much support but actual techniques to use. I was going to do it but it is on a Thursday in the morning which doesn't work for me.

Gotta run, crying baby...


I never answered this! I'm being referred there soon. I might attend and see how I find it. I've thought about starting up my own support group but requires a lot of energy...]]> Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:12:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115621&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115621 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : I think I may have had PND with...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115312&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115312 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 August 2010 at 3:31pm

I think I may have had PND with first daughter(Sophie), but didn't realise that was what it was. Possibly even PTSD. As it was a pretty scary birth experience for me. As I remember when she was a baby I'd lose the plot on occasion and once I smacked her and then she cried, like it scared her and then I started bawling, as I didn't even know why I'd lost the plot and hit her. I used to spend what seems like a lot of her life yelling at her and I really don't know why, as she was really well behaved. I think becoming a Mum was a big shock to the system, though I really wanted a baby.

I've had a few crappy days recently. I said to DP, I get why people who are stressed, financially and otherwise and don't see a way out commit suicide, as it seems like an easy out. I did tell him, I was just seeing how people could go there, but I don't plan to go there. It probably worried him. He really doesn't understand PND or depression though. The other day, I'd been getting really annoyed at older child and though I was being mean and grouchy, she still wanted a hug and then I felt like utter sh*t and wanted to go cut myself    I hate that feeling. I've felt that low a few times in the last few days. Just before I was yelling at Annabelle and telling her to just shut up and get over it already. I think she was overtired. I was just hungry and have a real sore back and am generally not feeling good. But still, I wish I wouldn't get pissed off at her like that. It's not a good feeling    It seems like MMH are actually finally acknowledging how depressed I am and how I'm really not coping. I think due to me saying I wanted to punch Sophie in the face and only not doing it because I was driving and how I'm worried about really wanting to hit her, though I didn't. But I said, I couldn't say whether I would or wouldn't have done it if I'd not been driving. I think when they think it's just a thought you are having, they don't take it seriously. But when she got that I was worried and felt like I really could've done such a thing, she woke up to the fact that I really need more support. I was having a bit of a crap day when she saw me. I was getting really defensive. Like she said that some of Sophie's behaviour is environment and I got bit*hy and said, it's not all me, a lot of it is troubles at school and her development being delayed, so stop putting all the blame on me!    I was also saying, her Dad being really slack at seeing her really doesn't help. I am very honest with MMH and PND phone support these days and let them know how I really truly feel. Like how I've never really been keen to do activities with Sophie that people suggest and I feel like a really crap parent and how due to her bad behaviour it's really hard to want to spend one on one time with her and also sometimes I just wish I could give her to her Dad. I think I have an issue with people telling me what to do(it's not them really telling me what to do, it's just suggestions). I tend to think they are saying I should do this or that and some part of me tends to rebel against that. MMH ask me if they think I will be like that towards Annabelle when she is older, but I said I really don't know, as she is only a baby and I have a partner around this time, so I really don't know if I will be better in that area or not. Apparently I'm not the only parent like this, but a lot will not admit to having these feelings. MMH was asking me again whether I would consider medication, but I said, if there was one that worked for me, long term, then yes, but none have so far. I'm starting a parenting course next week, so I hope it helps me. Plus it's refreshing to know I'm not the only one with a problem child. It just didn't help me when MMH lady said a few weeks back, sort Sophie's behaviour now or she will be an out of control teenager. My thinking is, she could be a bit more sensitive and word it more positively, as I hold on to things people say which are particularly negative. Better thing to say would've been 'if you work on improving Sophie's behaviour now, you'll be set and equipped for when she is older and have the strategies to deal with anything that comes your way.' Yeah...I tend to read too much into things and have conversations in my head about how things should've gone or should go and what I think people should say. I over think too much and I often go over scenarios in my head, which may never happen and often find myself thinking people don't like me and reading way, way too much into everything. I'm also worrying often about horrible things happening to either myself, my children or my DP. I think I'm rather anxious, worrisome and fearful. It's like my minds default is negative and like my mind is wired to think of the worse case scenario, instead of good and positive things. It's probably years of wrong thought processes and events in life causing my brain to wire itself this way.

Edited by escadachic]]> Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:31:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115312&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115312 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Escadachick... going back a bit...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115043&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115043 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 August 2010 at 12:42am

Escadachick... going back a bit - I definitely feel the same way as you. Up and down. It's not as bad as it was but I figure my medication isn't sorted yet. Sometimes I have really bad days and some days I have really great days. I'm still really affected by my environment and my choices.

An introduction from me: I was diagnosed with PND a little while ago - maybe 3mths I've been on medication but I figure I had it pretty much from the word go - even thinking maybe before he was born. I'm not sure. Anyway I'm on 20mg Citalopram and I'm quite sure it's not the right dose or drug as I'm still having low energy, low motivation, very very tired and often have days where I sleep during the day when DS does, do very little housework and don't have the motivation to get out of my PJs or have a shower I'm being referred to MMH and waiting to hear from Parent Aid and Barnadoes for help. So I guess it will eventually start to get sorted out. In the meantime, some days are a struggle. DS is still the joy of my life though and I'm still enjoying him.

ETA: I do go out socially still and make an effort in that regard but sometimes I feel terribly tired doing that.

Edited by nathansmummy]]> Sun, 01 Aug 2010 00:42:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1115043&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1115043 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : amme_eilyk wrote:how are you...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1113341&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1113341 Author: mummytobesep08
Subject: 22323
Posted: 29 July 2010 at 10:58pm

Originally posted by amme_eilyk amme_eilyk wrote:

how are you finding the normal mental health service as opposed to the maternity one, are they good or not quite as good?


I think there's good and bad bits to it.
The Good: They are a LOT more focused on the whole picture when it comes to dealing with things. I found I was always being told "Things will be back to normal and great once we get your meds sorted" with MMH so I had that attitude to when I was transferred to the other one, but they have a much more holistic view, like meds are only seen as part of the picture, not the major thing.

The Bad: Well for me it was hard feeling like the part of me that was a mother came second. I had always thought that once I got things sorted with Charli-Rose (eg felt confident with her and loved her to bits and could handle everything most of the time) that I would feel better, so not focusing on Charli was different and hard. Some of the things too, like support groups and even some of the meds, can't really work because I am a mum- I can't go along to exercise groups when I have DD and I can't be on meds that make me really sedated cuz I have to chase a toddler round!

It's also a bit scarier because a lot of the people in the service (particularly hospital which hopefully none of you will ever need to go to!) are really unwell and have been in and out of hospital for years so it can be a bit of a shock. It felt like with MMH pretty much everyone I met was likely to get better before they were discharged and there seemed to be a lot more hope, and a sense that things would get better sooner rather than later.

I hope it doesn't sound like I'm criticizing either of the services- am just noticing the differences

Hope everyone else is having an OK week! Boy I can't wait for the sun to come out more regularly again. I always feel better when it's warm and the days are longer and we can get outside.]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:58:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1113341&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1113341 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : its great to hear that things...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1112946&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1112946 Author: amme_eilyk
Subject: 22323
Posted: 29 July 2010 at 6:40pm

its great to hear that things are going well for you with your little one. how are you finding the normal mental health service as opposed to the maternity one, are they good or not quite as good?]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:40:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1112946&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1112946 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Thought I&#039;d do an update...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1112777&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1112777 Author: mummytobesep08
Subject: 22323
Posted: 29 July 2010 at 3:36pm

Thought I'd do an update too
It's really great to see people posting in here. Sometimes it feels like the board goes so quiet and I think "Really? Am I the only one?" so it's good to see some chatting

Well my baby isn't much of a baby anymore! She's 2 in a few months so I guess that puts me out of Post-Natal Depression and just into normal Depression. Not that that makes any difference except the support I get is from a different service (eg instead of maternal mental health it's just mental health). It is hard because all of a sudden it felt like the people we were getting help from forgot about bubs and that I was a mum, if that makes sense? When things are really bad and I've had to go away, I've had to leave Charli with other people which makes it really hard on both of us. Ah well at least we are still getting some help though

I am now just on two different types of meds- an anti-depressant called Mirtazepine which has only been used in NZ for like a year. I found the side effects were a lot worse than the other 4 I've been on, but the GOOD effects I've seen more of as well so I guess it's just a balance thing!

Even though little miss has really hit the terrible twos, I still find it easier at this age because she is so much more interactive. One of the things I felt the most when I was depressed was that Charli didn't love/need/want me and as little babies it is hard to know that sometimes, but now Charli has just learned to say "Mama!" which melts my heart every time and she is so much more...I dunno what the word is...affectionate maybe? Like she comes up to me and plonks herself down on my lap and cuddles up and stuff. Very cute hehehe ]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:36:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1112777&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1112777 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : I felt the same as you nathansmummy!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1112255&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1112255 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 29 July 2010 at 8:18am

I felt the same as you nathansmummy! Talking for that long, and then just SILENCE. I found that a bit funny :-) And yes I don't really like that airy fairy stuff myself, think I would prefer a more social thing where we talk and get feedback.

Are you under Maternal Mental Health? They do an 8 week course that is apparently more practical. Not so much support but actual techniques to use. I was going to do it but it is on a Thursday in the morning which doesn't work for me.

Gotta run, crying baby...]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:18:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1112255&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1112255 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : I found that strange too. When...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1112191&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1112191 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 28 July 2010 at 11:52pm

I found that strange too. When there are less people, however, she often would answer but instead of everyone chipping in it would just be the co-ordinator. I feel weird talking for 10mins without much feedback at all! And I feel like there's a lot of leaning on new age type philosophies rather than anything kind of concrete and practical that can help. Kind of a bit touchy-feely... which is fine but sometimes it's good just to share practical support.

That website I have noticed people don't post often. I don't know why! I guess we don't here either.]]> Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:52:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1112191&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1112191 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Nathansmummy, yes I found that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1111192&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1111192 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
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Posted: 28 July 2010 at 8:48am

Nathansmummy, yes I found that website awhile back, but don't really go on it. I didn't find people posted that often???

Yes I would like to socialise after the support group too, as it is good to talk to people who are going through the same thing. However the timing is never good for me either as midday is nap time :-) It was good to talk about how I was feeling, but I found the lack of feedback a bit strange ifykwim?

Maybe we should do a meet up of the girls from here! ]]> Wed, 28 Jul 2010 08:48:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1111192&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1111192 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : 1st time preg, i know exactly...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1108633&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1108633 Author: amme_eilyk
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Posted: 25 July 2010 at 9:52am

1st time preg, i know exactly how you are feeling i am doing the up and down too at the moment, like today I am feeling really great and awesome, but I know it can just take one thing to bring me back down.]]> Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:52:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1108633&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1108633 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Do you go on that website 1sttimePreg??...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1108462&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1108462 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 24 July 2010 at 8:45pm

Do you go on that website 1sttimePreg?? ie. you already knew about it!?

One thing about that support group is I wish there was time for socializing afterwards if people wanted to rather than everyone shooting off - I think it would be helpful.]]> Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:45:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1108462&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1108462 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : escadachic wrote:Do any of...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1107318&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1107318 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 23 July 2010 at 1:35pm

Originally posted by escadachic escadachic wrote:

Do any of you find that sometimes the PND cloud lifts and all seems well and then at times reality comes crashing down and suddenly you are back to feeling overwhelmed and depressed? Like sometimes, you cope so well and other times it's all falling apart?


Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought I was totally over feeling anxious or down as things were going so well with my wee boy (he is just about six months). Then the night wakings started, and I got so damn tired, and yesterday he didn't feed properly, and I felt TOTALLY down and overwhelmed!!!!

However, he then ate solids in the evening and SLEPT THRU THE NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!

I know it is probably a fluke, but today I feel better again    Sleep so helps!!!!

Nathansmummy, I have been to the support group out West. It is good, but just such a long drive for me!!!! I so appreciate the online support, it is a godsend!!!!

]]> Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:35:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1107318&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1107318 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : I will scroll back and read everyone&#039;s...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106951&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106951 Author: nathansmummy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 23 July 2010 at 12:17am

I will scroll back and read everyone's posts tomorrow when it's not midnight (!) but I just wanted to let people know that there are a few support groups out there.

If you are in Auckland there is one in Te Atatu that meets on a Tuesday morning with a free creche. There's also one in Pukekohe (south of Auckland) and one in Christchurch.

Plus there is an online support group www.justbreathe.org and I am finding it an incredible help with information and friendship.]]> Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:17:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106951&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106951 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Right, so now I will attempt to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106949&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106949 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 22 July 2010 at 11:56pm

Right, so now I will attempt to re-write my original post.

For those who need them

1st_Time_Preggies. Sorry to hear you've been feeling not so great.

How I am, is good presently. I have been doing this:
moodgym It has helped a little.

I found the school holidays hard. Older DD was driving me up the wall! Had to resort to taking nearly all her toys away and her dvds and games, as an attempt to motivate her to behave better. Sometimes the behaviour improved, sometimes it went backwards. I'm supposed to start a parenting course soon. She had an assessment at CAHM's(child adolescent health and mental services) yesterday. They are going to get back to me about any more ideas they have for me. They have said her behaviour could be partly learning difficulties and partly environment, like at home. Currently she has reading recovery, some teacher aid help, a resource teacher assessing her and assisting teacher with ideas/strategies. Kind of makes me feel like a failure as a parent, her needing all this help. They have me doing extra stuff with her, as well as homework on weekdays. I was so glad to see the end of the school holidays. I did find them really testing. But I have a behaviour chart for her and sometimes she wants to get happy faces and behaves better and other times she just doesn't care. It's interesting to hear that some of her home behaviour, the not so great stuff is happening at school. It's hard not to take her acting out, as being somehow my fault.

Do any of you find that sometimes the PND cloud lifts and all seems well and then at times reality comes crashing down and suddenly you are back to feeling overwhelmed and depressed? Like sometimes, you cope so well and other times it's all falling apart?

I do feel like that at times. Right, I'm going to copy all my post now, in case my internet dies again. I would hate to lose 10+mins worth of writing again.]]> Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:56:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106949&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106949 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Argh!!! I totally just lost a...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106948&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106948 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 22 July 2010 at 11:43pm

Argh!!! I totally just lost a huge post!!! I spent like 10+mins writing it and then my internet went down and the post went bye bye!!! ]]> Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:43:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106948&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106948 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Hi Coopersmum! Good to see you...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106920&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106920 Author: girly_girl
Subject: 22323
Posted: 22 July 2010 at 10:23pm

Hi Coopersmum! Good to see you hear hun!

I haven't posted in a while either. Things have been up and down here. I'm now up to 60mg of citalopram (3 tablets) and 50mg of seraquol (2 tablets). My mood is defo much improved, still have some anxiety about being around people who don't have PND, but I'm working on it on the days it feels manageable I do it - but on the bad days I'm still unplugging the phone and leaving the curtains closed to hide from the world....

Went to the paed for wee boy yesterday (he has really bad reflux) so came away feeling a little more reassured that what I was doing was on the right track.

First night on 2 seraquol tonight - I'm hoping for some excellent sleep!!]]> Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:23:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106920&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106920 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : 1st_Time_Preggies wrote:my...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106113&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106113 Author: myfullhouse
Subject: 22323
Posted: 22 July 2010 at 10:35am

Originally posted by 1st_Time_Preggies 1st_Time_Preggies wrote:

my DS is STILL waking twice a night and I feel like a failure!!!!!

I know it is easier said than done but don't feel like a failure, you are NOT a failure. Although it doesn't seem like it but a baby that sleeps thru is actually realtively rare, it is more common for babies to wake in the night still. Try Elizabeth Pantley's "No Cry Sleep Solution" or Pinky McKay's "Sleeping like a baby", they are really good for understanding how your baby sleeps.

Sleep deprivation is hard though. Ben is in our bed every night at the moment as I get sick of getting up to him, but his is teething related, has cut 14 teeth since mid-Jan . I seem to manage pretty well on little sleep though, 3yrs of practice!!

Oh, I suppose I should reintroduce myself as I haven't been in this thread for ages. I have pretty much had PND since Jack was born but didn't say anything to anyone till Ben was about 4wks old. I went on meds in Feb this year and am feeling pretty good. I am still think about TTC #3 after xmas so that would mean going off the neds by the end of the year. I think that will be OK though as I am on 20mg Citalopram so my PND isn't too bad and I have great family support. Plus counselling helped me understand my triggers so I can keep an eye on those]]> Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:35:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106113&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106113 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : How old is your DS? Im presuming...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106036&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106036 Author: Kellz
Subject: 22323
Posted: 22 July 2010 at 9:38am

How old is your DS? Im presuming around 6 months if hes only starting on solids ? - Its completly normal to be feeding in the night at this age, and is nothing to do with u doing anything wrong. Babies that sleep through dont neseccarily do so cos the parents are doing something to make it hapen either. More of the Jan 2010 babies are being fed overnight than are sleeping through.
Sleep deprivation does suck big time tho. It definatly makes things worse for me. Im still pnd free this time, but I know sleep deprivation is a trigger, and how much sleep oIm ok on and what Im not- so I get help when Ive had less than I can cope on. Ive had 4 hrs sleep in a row a couple of times, but now more than that in 6 months! When we were getting down to 4 hrs total broken sleep per night thats when I really cant manage!]]> Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:38:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1106036&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1106036 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Bump! Where is everyone? Hope...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1105988&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1105988 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 22 July 2010 at 9:01am

Bump! Where is everyone?

Hope its quiet because everyone is doing well

I am okay, although feeling a bit down, because my DS is STILL waking twice a night and I feel like a failure!!!!! I don't understand why, and it is very frustrating. He has started on solids but not eating much yet. But I suspect they won't help anyway. The only thing that puts him back to sleep is breastfeeding. He CAN self settle, because he does that at other times in the night, but around midnight and 5am, he WON'T.

It is making me sooooooooooo tired, and I think that is adding to my feeling down. Also I know that if he doesn't do it of his own accord soon, my hubby wants to use CIO as nothing else works (we have tried dummy, water etc etc). DREADING IT!

How is everyone?]]> Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:01:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1105988&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1105988 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Hi Escadachic. I don&#039;t have...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1095430&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1095430 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 12 July 2010 at 11:08am

Hi Escadachic. I don't have kindy or school aged children but I can imagine you are getting stressed and overwhelmed! Two kiddies, one school age and one bubs is HARD work. Do you have anyone you can ask to come and help you out for a day? I don't know about Wellington, but at Sylvia Park in Auckland you can go to the mall and put your older child in childcare for FREE for an hour and a half while you shop. Might just give you a break and a breather???

I am feeling quite over it today myself, and I only have one! Master 5 months is STILL waking once a night at least, but it is getting earlier and earlier, and this morning he woke again at 5am and wouldn't go back to sleep without feeding. Which is fine except then he wouldn't feed at 7am (wake up time), and then he didn't sleep for his morning nap either!!!!! ARGH, so annoying. I don't know how to get him to last longer at night or not too feed. I hate hearing him cry :-( He is due to go on solids soon but isn't showing all the signs so I don't want to rush into it hoping it will help. And what if when he is on solids it doesn't help!!!!! :-(

On top of that, I am tired of doing dishes, tired of vacuuming only for the dog to bring in MUD, and tired of continuous washing!!!!!!!

Just had to vent :-D]]> Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:08:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1095430&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1095430 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Does anyone else who has Kindy...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1089470&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1089470 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 06 July 2010 at 4:36pm

Does anyone else who has Kindy or school aged children find school holidays are making the stress levels shoot up and the PND worse and everything so much more overwhelming?

I can admit I am finding this. The past 2 days I've wanted to ask DP to look after the kids, so I can just run away somewhere and cry, cry, cry and feel sorry for myself.    So feeling the stress and getting overwhelmed aye. Feeling pretty crap as a Mum too.]]> Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:36:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1089470&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1089470 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Just wanted to say Welcome to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1084521&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1084521 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 July 2010 at 9:32pm

Just wanted to say Welcome to this forum Nicandtyler.]]> Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:32:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1084521&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1084521 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Hi guys welcome to the new comers,...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1083540&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1083540 Author: salz
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 July 2010 at 10:06am

Hi guys welcome to the new comers, its a brave thing to come out and realise you need help with not coping. Thats what this forum is for.
escadachic- not sure if you have a councellor but I think you need to see someone to reassess you, you shouldn't be feeling like that. Really feel for you.
nicandtyler- I know what you mean with struggling with a not very supportive DH/DP, looking back on it I think my mood effected him so we were withdrawing from each other. I actually got my DH to go to councelling too ( said we needed it to save our marriage) I know its difficult to get a male to do something like that, but it has really helped us. He even did the dishes last night!!!!! Which is such a big deal. We are learning all about what it is to be in a partnership with this parenting thing, its not all the mums job!
I would have blow ups every month or so and want to walk out as well. There are definite issues that need to be sorted but I think the depression was making me not cope and lose the plot. It takes a lot of courage to go to your GP wondering if you have depression but Im so glad I did.
I was put on Fluoxitine 20mgs and it has really worked for me, I have a zing to life again and my house is clean, I make my bed which I havn't done for over a year! It can be a bit of trial and error with finding the right medication and dose but stick at it and keep going back to your GP until you find something that works!

]]> Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:06:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1083540&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1083540 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : coopersmum wrote:Hi ladies,...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1083340&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1083340 Author: anon
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 July 2010 at 12:05am

Originally posted by coopersmum coopersmum wrote:

Hi ladies, I have a confession! I have been a lurker in this thead for awhile now So think its about time I finally joined in!

I have PND, and was diagnosed about 6weeks ago now. I got onto it fairly early and am taking 60mg citalipram.

I have had the most fantastic week since uping meds to 60mg, but today my DS2 (11wks) has not been playing the sleeping game!! Argh!! Have finally got him asleep now, but has really tested me.

Hope everyone is having a good week


How many tablets is that? My Dr is very reluctant to raise my medication from 1 tablet which I think is 20mg or maybe 40mg?? Not sure. Maybe because of the anxiety I felt at the beginning... but I'm certainly not 100% yet! Far from it! He said I would feel loads of energy... I am still waiting for that to happen - could get a bit of housework done if I did!!

Edited by newlywed]]> Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:05:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1083340&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1083340 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : hugs escadachic!!! I really felt...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1083338&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1083338 Author: anon
Subject: 22323
Posted: 30 June 2010 at 11:58pm

hugs escadachic!!! I really felt for you reading your post xo

I'm not feeling quite so low as that anymore (thanks to the meds I think) but I know what you mean about the shouting. I am sooo worried about DS and I feel terribly guilty. It wasn't just me - was DH as well, so he has to take some responsibility... but I am hoping hoping that I get better so that I won't lose the plot at him rather than DH and shout at him etc. I have experienced shouting and arguments growing up too and I know how it affected me as a kid. Breaks my heart, I just want him to be happy and to protect him.

PND is just so hard to deal with particularly if you have virtually no support.

Edited by newlywed]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:58:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1083338&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1083338 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : There are so many pages I haven&#039;t...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1083335&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1083335 Author: anon
Subject: 22323
Posted: 30 June 2010 at 11:53pm

There are so many pages I haven't read back to see what's going on in this thread but am hoping that I can get a bit of support here. I was diagnosed with PND a little while back and although the medication has helped somewhat, it hasn't been three months yet and I'm told it can take that long to really feel its affect.

I really struggle some days. Mostly with finding my DH SOOOO irritating and sometimes I feel so angry I just want to blast him. Tonight we did blast each other and I walked out and went shopping and left him to look after the baby. Consequently the baby took forever to settle tonight (between the upset in routine and probably the argument too) and I ended up having to take him to bed for a few hours with me to get him off to sleep.

It's hard because DH has chronic depression and anxiety. You'd think I'd have understanding/sympathy from him, but instead anything I'm going through he rolls his eyes and has the attitude that he's 10x worse and has always had to cope with it. And dealing with his depression and anxiety is not easy when I'm going through it myself.]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:53:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1083335&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1083335 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : hi everyone im new to this topic,...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1083043&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1083043 Author: nicandtyler
Subject: 22323
Posted: 30 June 2010 at 7:34pm

hi everyone im new to this topic, i havent been diagnosed...i actually havent even been to see anyone, this is all very recent, ive started feeling like im really not coping atm....DS has always been a pretty good sleeper, but for the past month or so he is refusing to go to sleep, i mean his eyes will be rolling in his head cos hes so tired and hes yawning away but will force himself to stay awake, and so he is crying until he finally goees to sleep..in my arms, normally on the boob and ive resorted to co-sleeping at night becasue i dont have the energy to be up all night but lately ive been getting so frustrated with him that im putting him down in his cot and storming out of the room and then feel so bad cos he will be in there crying, and my partner (who ive been fighting with everyday) works 4pm till midnight, and sleeps in EVERY morning, reluctantly does anything to help out with T, like he will hold him for me to have a shower (if i ask) or if i need to do something else (again only if i ask) i feel so isolated because ive just moved out of my mums where me and my partner were, so im home alone from 3pm onwards, and also having no money, having to go back to uni is all so much, i feel teary all the time when im by myself and so stressed out, i feel like no-one gets it...or cares...i dont know, sorry to ramble, and sorry to post on here even though i havent been diagnosed or anything, i feel so crap so often, but love my son to bits, he is the absolulte best thing in my life and i feel so bad for feeling the way i do cos im scared hel be able to sense how im feelin and then be miserale himself.....life is so draining some times its not fair]]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:34:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1083043&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1083043 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Welcome Mummy_beck and Coopersmum....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1081867&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1081867 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 29 June 2010 at 10:33pm

Welcome Mummy_beck and Coopersmum.

Yeah it's nice to know we are not the only Mums in the world going through this.

I've been having a crap few days. Have wanted to just piss off and leave everyone behind 2 days in a row now    And have wanted to offload my oldest daughter onto someone else for the past few days. She just treats everything as a joke. I told her to stop scretching today while I was driving, as it''s distracting and I might crash, so she laughs about it and talks about the car crashing like it's funny. It's very hard with her, she doesn't understand what is appropriate and thinks so many not so nice things are just funny and a joke. It's very hard to deal with. I've wanted to self-harm both yesterday and today    But I have made sure I am strong and haven't. But I still feel crap for wanting to. I'm just getting really overwhelmed by so much these days. It hasn't helped that my baby is refusing to go to sleep before 11:30pm, though she is tired and I attempt to put her to bed like 3 times at night. Also she is teething, and has a little cold and I'm drained and getting sick. To make matters worse today, the oil heater blew up, so no heater in our room, so baby might not be going to sleep yet due to the room being cold, though I have a beanie on her and extra blankets. Then we borrowed a heater off DP's parents and got it home to discover it doesn't work. We have fan heaters, but they can't be kept on, as they are too much of a fire risk Not having a good week so far.]]> Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:33:59 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1081867&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1081867 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : hi coopersmum and hi becks I...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1081637&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1081637 Author: Brenna
Subject: 22323
Posted: 29 June 2010 at 8:43pm

hi coopersmum and hi becks    I don't come on here too often cause keep getting distracted with other things but it's so nice to know there are other people out there going/been through the same things. It's fantastic to have heaps of support in lots of different ways
]]> Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:43:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1081637&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1081637 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Hi ladies, I have a confession!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1081171&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1081171 Author: coopersmum
Subject: 22323
Posted: 29 June 2010 at 3:50pm

Hi ladies, I have a confession! I have been a lurker in this thead for awhile now So think its about time I finally joined in!

I have PND, and was diagnosed about 6weeks ago now. I got onto it fairly early and am taking 60mg citalipram.

I have had the most fantastic week since uping meds to 60mg, but today my DS2 (11wks) has not been playing the sleeping game!! Argh!! Have finally got him asleep now, but has really tested me.

Hope everyone is having a good week ]]> Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:50:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1081171&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1081171 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Welcome mummy_becks glad you have...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1078909&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1078909 Author: salz
Subject: 22323
Posted: 27 June 2010 at 8:22pm

Welcome mummy_becks glad you have got some answers and now getting the appropriate treatment. My councellor said I had PTSD too although minor. Its mainly PND for me. ]]> Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:22:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1078909&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1078909 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : I am going to poke my head in...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1078316&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1078316 Author: mummy_becks
Subject: 22323
Posted: 26 June 2010 at 10:42pm

I am going to poke my head in here. I have been diagnosed with PTSD from my past but it is being triggered often at the moment. I saw my doctor a few weeks ago for my 3 monthly check up and he confirmed the PTSD over PND and depression. I had PND with both my boys but he now feels it was PTSD. I am starting some intensive councilling for it, and my main struggle with PTSD is control.

]]> Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:42:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1078316&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1078316 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : 1st_Time_Preggies wrote: Am...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1078181&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1078181 Author: Brenna
Subject: 22323
Posted: 26 June 2010 at 8:37pm

Originally posted by 1st_Time_Preggies 1st_Time_Preggies wrote:



Am still having a lot of trouble sleeping though (whether my wee man wakes or not!) so am trying a homeopathic remedy at the moment. Anyone else given this a go??? It is a bit airy fairy for my liking but I figure it is worth a shot



I tried a natural remedy and for me it didn't cut the mustard. I'm not sure how bad your non-sleeping is, but mine was terrifying (in panic attacks all night) and I finally gave in and tried prescription meds...was the best thing I ever did. I'm slowly cutting back on them. Am off the zopiclone now and down to 1/2 diazepam from being on 2 each night. I was so worried about getting addicted to them, bit with the great support of my GP she has given me excellent advice to coming off them slowly and it's working It's so hard trying to find what works for each person, but there is something out there that will help...I promise ]]> Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:37:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1078181&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1078181 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Salz, glad the fog appears to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1078134&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1078134 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 26 June 2010 at 7:57pm

Salz, glad the fog appears to be lifting

1st_Time_Preggies, going from 1-2 children is a big transition, but it does get easier. Like the 1st few weeks I found mega hard, due to trying to get sleep and kep the house tidy and have some kind of life. But then I discovered you can't have it all or do it all. I did in the first few weeks get a bit down as I felt my life was taken over and lost any sense of myself and just felt like I was here simply to serve everyone but myself. But after about 3 wks, things just seemed to get easier. It's more the testing behaviour from 6 1/2 yr old that made life super hard. As she used to be so well behaved and since she turned 6, slowly her attitude has gotten worse and I think the family dynamics changing was a bit of an adjustment. But the way I see it, or at least try and see it is I will have the practise for when Annabelle is older.

Nah I'm not busy, quite the opposite. Often just bored as.

I've had some down days this week. At the start of the week I was all wanting to put an end to everything, as I thought everyone would be better off without me. Only because I yelled at older daughter and Annabelle looked all worried and I got all paranoid about yelling and worried about it being a regular thing and affecting Annabelle and causing her to be timid and anxious as she gets older. I know what yelling around babies/kids can do, from being yelled at or hearing a lot of yelling growing up. Then I was driving on the motorway and looked to the side of the road and felt like driving off it. Then I cried because I felt so low and then one evening while lying in bed I cried simply because my thoughts had gone that way. I felt like I wanted to self-harm on that day at the start of the week when I was questioning myself, but thankfully I worry what people think and don't want people thinking I'm weird or strange, so I didn't. I find it hard admitting to feeling so low, as I'm sure it's not nice to hear about. Yesterday DP was stressed and yelling at me and I felt really down and sad with him being like that. I have been in a really sensitive mood emotionally this week. Getting upset a lot. I had actually written a post that took 10 mins to write this morning, but then my net had gone down while I was writing it and I didn't realise until I went to post it and found out that way. I was like NOOOOO!!!!    As I had taken all that time to write and had nothing to show for it and couldn't even go back a page and try retrieve what was written but no luck! Damn that sucked!]]> Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:57:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1078134&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1078134 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Yes it has been a bit quiet lately!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1077645&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1077645 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 26 June 2010 at 9:03am

Yes it has been a bit quiet lately! Guessing everyone is busy if I am anything to go by.

Salz, great to hear that the fog is lifting and that you are more happy and motivated! And only after a week too, awesome.

I'm not doing too badly at the moment. Am still having a lot of trouble sleeping though (whether my wee man wakes or not!) so am trying a homeopathic remedy at the moment. Anyone else given this a go??? It is a bit airy fairy for my liking but I figure it is worth a shot

I am occasionally feeling myself get a bit anxious or obsessive about things (like naps!) but usually I can talk myself out of it. So some progress has been made.

I am even on the fence about having number two! A few months back I couldn't imagine anything worse ]]> Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:03:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1077645&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1077645 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Bit quiet in this forum. Oh well,...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1077035&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1077035 Author: salz
Subject: 22323
Posted: 25 June 2010 at 3:55pm

Bit quiet in this forum.
Oh well, have been on my meds for a week now and have noticed the feeling of the fog lifting a bit in my mind. Certainly feeling more happy and motivated. Even made my bed today and put clothes away, such a simple task yet i didn't do that for months. Still have the odd day where I feel nauseous and have a constant headache but dont have that today so hope the side efects are easing.

Edited by salz]]> Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:55:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1077035&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1077035 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Welcome to this forum Salz I&#039;m...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1072879&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1072879 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 22 June 2010 at 4:41pm

Welcome to this forum Salz

I'm so there with regards to the house being messy as, but not feeling motivated to do anything about it. Doing anything like that seems like such a chore and I only really have enough motivation to do it for like 10 mins, preferably less though. And that's not daily either. I constantly think I need to clean up, but then put myself first and just try to do things I enjoy and only do some tidying if I am mega bored. Yeah I too want to run away every so often. I thought it would be easy with this being #2, but I was really rather wrong! The baby part takes less time to get the hang of yes, but the older child and her testing behaviour is so hard to deal with. At least once a week i want to give her away. Though I never would. I Love her, but don't always like her. And if older DD is pissing me off, everything starts to bother me and I get super tense. I too have no motivation to go for a walk. So many people keep saying, go for a walk, it'll make you feel so much better. And I'm like, no thankx! I really prefer to hide away at home. I just keep wondering why every Mum doesn't get PND, as I just can't fathom how other Mums cope so well. Better go, time to pick up DP from work. Though I'd rather just stay home.]]> Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:41:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1072879&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1072879 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Hey Im new to this forum, recently...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1072741&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1072741 Author: salz
Subject: 22323
Posted: 22 June 2010 at 3:31pm

Hey Im new to this forum, recently diagnosed with PND which I think I have had for 15months. Have been started on Fluoxetine, am on day 5 today feel nauseous with a constant headache, has anyone else had this if so how long did it take to pass? Its difficult to accept the diagnosis of depression as my symptoms were quite suttle thought it was all part of being a first time mum.
Although other people prob would have noticed. My house would get so disgustingly messy I was embaressed but still didn't have the motivation to tidy up. Just seemed like everything was more of an effort. I felt like running away once a month.
Over eating like you wouldn't believe with no motivation to get outside even for just a walk.
So really hope the meds kick in and this first stage of side effects pass.
1st_Time_Preggies- prob wouldn't worry about the sleeping thru til your DS is on solids. Dont fall into my trap that still after 15 months my DD was still waking 1-2 a night and i had to end up doing the CIO actually DH did it I did a night shift at work so I didnt have to deal with it hehe. It worked but its still not a nice thing to have to so. We got pretty desperate.]]> Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:31:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1072741&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1072741 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Haven&#039;t checked on this thread...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1064955&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1064955 Author: Richie
Subject: 22323
Posted: 15 June 2010 at 11:02pm

Haven't checked on this thread in a while, but yes 0Mrs0Ana0, Isla and I are famous Just got my copy the other day after being told by all my friends who sub to it that she was in there. I honestly can't even remember writing in lol. had to wait for a few weeks before it was available in shops. Apparently there was a delay in them being distributed so they were a few weeks late. Some shops are only getting them in now. It's so cool. I'm going to put the magazine in a wee memories box we have for Isla.
to all of those having a crappy time at the moment. I've been in a real good headspace lately. Have fond something to keep my mind occupied - baking - and I'm secretly good at it! (all these years I've thought I was crap at it! lol) but it is great to do something and have such a positive result. DF can't stop raving about how impressed he is. It's been a real confidence boost. It certainly is the little things in life that make you happy ay
Bed time. Night night x]]> Tue, 15 Jun 2010 23:02:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1064955&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1064955 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : 1st_Time_Preggies - Oh thankx...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1062821&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1062821 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 14 June 2010 at 1:45pm

1st_Time_Preggies - Oh thankx for caring and big hugs back to you

Sux about the argument with you DH. Seems it's hard to be on the same page as your partner as a general rule in parenting. Those who are on the same page are lucky. I often have different ideas then my DP. He is carefree and I am cautious. I often tell him off about how he is holding her. He may have her securely according to him, but if I see any potential for danger I freak and tell him off. I find I get easily annoyed and stressed on little sleep too. Like say if I've just got to bed and I get woken like 30-60mins after getting to sleep, I get grumpy that Annabelle has woken me so soon after such little sleep. But I try to remind myself it's not her fault, she's a baby and she's not doing it on purpose.

Yeah I get how you feel about needing some time for just you. Being a Mum takes a lot out of you and it takes up so much of you, your energy and time. So it is understandable wanting a break when possible. I don't get much of a break and am often b***hing at my DP on the weekend that it's not fair that he gets the sleep in and that I need sleep more then him, as mine gets interrupted so much, while he has a good as sleep. Also sometimes I will ask him to do something and if he's on the computer he'll tell me to do it and I'll respond by saying "seriously?!...I do so much all day for Annabelle, don't I deserve to just sit here and relax?...."

I have Annabelle on solids now and I feel it has helped with her sleeping.

And hey, feel free to b*tch. This forum is here for that and many other things.]]> Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:45:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1062821&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1062821 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Oh escadachic, sounds like you...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1062458&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1062458 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 14 June 2010 at 9:25am

Oh escadachic, sounds like you are struggling a bit at the moment

BIG HUGS!!!

Doesn't sounds like your support group is being particularly supportive! No one has the right to judge you unless they have walked in your shoes - and no one has! I'm sure we have ALL felt like leaving our children when it all gets a bit much. That is perfectly normal.

I hope you are feeling better today.

I have had a busy weekend, with lots of late nights so am feeling a bit run down and TIRED. I find my anxiety levels and tolerance gets badly affected when I don't have enough sleep. My wee man woke at midnight last night for a feed and I was ANNOYED and for the first time that I can remember felt SICK of getting up He is only four months old so I don't feel I can withhold feeds yet until he is on solids which means MONTHS of interrupted sleep still.

To top it off I just had a big argument with my husband about what to do about it. I said basically we have a few options: withhold a breastfeed and let him CIO (NOT something I can handle); keep going and suck it up till he is established on solids; or look into topping him up with formula at night. I know the last one isn't a guarantee he will sleep through but at the moment he is taking 80ml EBM from a bottle but would take more if there was more. So maybe the formula would fill him up.

After I talked about these options, my husband says: there is another option, which is you stop going out and express after every feed to get enough for a full bottle of EBM at night. I was like: ummm no I will go insane. And he says: isn't the welfare of our son more important than your social life????    ARRRRGGGHHH!!! How frickin rude. I sacrifice sleep, money, my identity, EVERYTHING for him, and would DO anything for him. BUT I think a happy mum makes for a happy baby and being stuck inside all day every day would drive me INSANE!!!

Okay enough bitching ]]> Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:25:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1062458&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1062458 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Awww Cinders, I kinda wondered...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1062197&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1062197 Author: Juzzo
Subject: 22323
Posted: 13 June 2010 at 8:41pm

Awww Cinders, I kinda wondered about you too hun. What a huge step you've taken in even considering it. Yes the GP is definately your first point of call, good luck, it's not the easiest but you'll feel better once you've chatted to him/her.]]> Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:41:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1062197&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1062197 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : I was having a very crap day yesterday...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1058575&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1058575 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 09 June 2010 at 10:54pm

I was having a very crap day yesterday and unfortunately it was due to PND support group. The lady who takes it, has made me feel judged on several occasions now and made me feel unimportant. Yesterday when we all had our turn sharing. I didn't even speak for long and I just paused after a sentence and she cut me off and moved onto the next person. So I thought, oh ok, maybe we only have a certain amount of time, but no, she let others share for ages    I mentioned how I let my older DD have 3 days off school, so she could have some more time with just me and Annabelle, while DP was at work, as an attempt to improve her behaviour and make her feel important, as I felt she has been acting out due to feeling rejected. So lady who takes the group is like, don't do that again or the truenchy officer will visit you. I mean FFS, I am just looking out for my daughter and was doing something good for her. Other times I say something and the lady goes silent and it makes me feel stink and judged. Like I mentioned that I wanted to walk away and leave my older DD at Farmers, though I wouldn't and the lady just goes all silent. A different time I mentioned I had felt the desire to self-harm and instead of saying something or asking anything, she went silent, making me feel stink again. Yesterday, she asked us all to say how we feel on a scale of 1-10 since the first day of group and now and I said 6-7 maybe the first day and yesterday 3, maybe 2 and noone said a thing    I had felt like running to the bathroom to cry after I had been cut off in talking yesterday, but then worried people may work out I had been crying and might ask why and I didn't want to say why, as I didn't want to tell them it was the lady who made me feel that way and I didn't want her to ask why, as I wasn't comfortable telling her it was her fault. I just feel she isn't compassionate enough, or more she is more compassionate towards the women with traumatic birth experiences. But I am depressed too and yesterday, everyone's mood scale was way above mine and noone asked me why I felt so low. I really didn't feel supported aye and kept silent most of the group and then left as soon as it finished and I'm relieved it is finishing, as that way I can't feel judged anymore or unimportant. I did feel extremely low yesterday and the end of last week. I am so sensitive at the moment too and easily get upset. Though today has been good. I find I am less stressed out by Annabelle and older DD lately, which is nice. Just a pity I still get so down. I think though, Tuesday wasn't helped by only having 3 hrs uninterrupted sleep on Monday night. Oh actually it was interrupted once for like 5 mins, due to damn cat scratching outside the bedroom door and meowing. Naughty cat! ]]> Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:54:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1058575&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1058575 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Cinders, good girl hon, I have...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1054390&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1054390 Author: girly_girl
Subject: 22323
Posted: 05 June 2010 at 9:24pm

Cinders, good girl hon, I have been worried about you for a while and I'm right behind you every step of the way gorgeous lady.

You can go to your GP or your local family centre. They will get you to do the Edinburgh test and go from there. I went to my GP and then to the FC. But they both did the test on me. AD's need to come from your GP though.

xx]]> Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:24:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1054390&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1054390 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : I found a song that I find good...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1053877&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1053877 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 05 June 2010 at 12:14am

I found a song that I find good to listen to when I feel crap. Bad Day by Daniel Powter. It so reflects how I often feel and is just nice to listen to and helps me a lot.]]> Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:14:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1053877&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1053877 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Hi Cinders, if you don&#039;t...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1052056&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1052056 Author: 0mrs0ana0
Subject: 22323
Posted: 03 June 2010 at 2:42pm

Hi Cinders, if you don't want to talk to your GP there are a couple of helplines that can get you started?
click here , you could also try the depression helpline, they might be able to help click here .

Honestly honey one the best things that helped me get through depression (haven't had PND - still PG) a few years ago was a diagnoses, it's amazing what a diagnoses can do, you feel like a weight has been lifted off your shoulders, you realise that there is nothing "wrong" with you, you are just ill, it is temporary, there is treatment and you will get better.

The adds with John Kirwan were on all the time and it was actually really nice to see them, one thing that has really stuck with me that he said was "Enjoy the little things" and I still now 3 years on live my life by that mantra, sometimes when I'm having a down day it's the best way for me to get through.

You will find your way, you will get better, take care ]]> Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:42:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1052056&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1052056 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : thats what i did last year..i...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1052054&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1052054 Author: ALittleLoopy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 03 June 2010 at 2:41pm

thats what i did last year..i went to my GP and she put my anti depressants and referred me to PHO for counselling...it helped big time!!
I came off them before TTCing in JUNE 09 but am now having the same feelings again now (though not as bad..yet...) prenatally, so im worried about PND...i will be mentioning it to my mw next week if i can remember to lol as then she can keep an eye on my from the outside]]> Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:41:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1052054&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1052054 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Thanks BAMN08, think i&#039;ll...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1052048&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1052048 Author: Luna_Azzura
Subject: 22323
Posted: 03 June 2010 at 2:36pm

Thanks BAMN08, think i'll start with the GP and go from there. He's quite approachable so won't be too scary talking to him about it.]]> Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:36:09 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1052048&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1052048 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : you can see your GP and they can...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051989&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051989 Author: ALittleLoopy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 03 June 2010 at 1:51pm

you can see your GP and they can look into medication if its needed and refer you to counselling services but if you dont want to go to the doc/ dont want meds you can self refer yourself for 6 free counselling sessions through your local PHO]]> Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:51:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051989&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051989 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Hi Ladies, taken me a little while...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051980&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051980 Author: Luna_Azzura
Subject: 22323
Posted: 03 June 2010 at 1:47pm

Hi Ladies, taken me a little while to pluck up the courage to post here. I think i have been struggling with PND for a wee while now, i don't know quite where to start really. I feel isolated where we live and we don't have any family members to give any supoprt near by.  I love my DD so much but find each day quite a battle and feel near tears  every morning when my DH leaves the house as i know i have so many hours to cope by myslef. I hand her over to him the moment he steps through the door. I feel like im not doing the best i can cause i can't see the end of this period of time. we are supposed to be moving to Nelson soon, but even that seems years away and i hate the thought of being stuck at home for so long.

 

So my question is...where do i start with getting help? My GP? I don't think my DH thinks i have PND, but i know i need to ask some one for help as these feelings have gone on for too long

 

Help please

]]> Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:47:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051980&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051980 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : BAMN08 wrote:is it 6 issues...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051119&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051119 Author: 0mrs0ana0
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 June 2010 at 6:39pm

Originally posted by BAMN08 BAMN08 wrote:

is it 6 issues a year or 12??
6 issues is $24.95 on their site...im going to just go subscribe hehe


It's 6 issues per year]]> Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:39:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051119&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051119 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : is it 6 issues a year or 12?? 6...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051112&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051112 Author: ALittleLoopy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 June 2010 at 6:29pm

is it 6 issues a year or 12??
6 issues is $24.95 on their site...im going to just go subscribe hehe

im subbed, so naughty but its not that expensive and apparently $15 cheaper than buying in stores each issue

Edited by BAMN08]]> Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:29:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051112&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051112 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Oh bugger, I have the April/May...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051107&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051107 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 June 2010 at 6:26pm

Oh bugger, I have the April/May issue! Typical, my local supermarket doesn't have the right one!

Edited by escadachic]]> Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:26:15 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051107&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051107 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : So... nothing like random phone...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051078&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051078 Author: 0mrs0ana0
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 June 2010 at 5:50pm

So... nothing like random phone calls from private numbers to get the overactive imagination working... some woman rang before asking to speak to my husband, I asked to take a message, she said no and would call back later, but didn't ask me when he would be home.... hmm... shut up brain! shut up!]]> Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:50:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051078&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051078 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Not sure, I think most book stores...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051075&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051075 Author: 0mrs0ana0
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 June 2010 at 5:46pm

Not sure, I think most book stores sell it, DH got me a subscription to it (aww), I think it's $25 for a year? here's the link - click here ]]> Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:46:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051075&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051075 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : awww i dont have the treasures...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051043&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051043 Author: ALittleLoopy
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 June 2010 at 5:18pm

awww i dont have the treasures mag!! can you get it at the supermarket?? how much is it?

iv heard alot of women sub to it]]> Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:18:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051043&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051043 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : ^^ Tresures - June/July issue ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051006&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051006 Author: 0mrs0ana0
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 June 2010 at 4:57pm

^^ Tresures - June/July issue ]]> Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:57:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1051006&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1051006 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Which magazine and which month?...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1050942&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1050942 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 June 2010 at 4:11pm

Which magazine and which month?]]> Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:11:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1050942&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1050942 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : NZLISAJO - you & Isla are famous!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1050549&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1050549 Author: 0mrs0ana0
Subject: 22323
Posted: 02 June 2010 at 11:38am

NZLISAJO - you & Isla are famous! Saw your article last night

Edited by 0mrs0ana0]]> Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:38:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1050549&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1050549 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : 0mrs0ana0 wrote:There is a...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1050047&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1050047 Author: 0mrs0ana0
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 June 2010 at 8:00pm

Originally posted by 0mrs0ana0 0mrs0ana0 wrote:

There is a woman he works with that makes me seethe! She doesn't even work in the same city, but they talk on the phone, she trained him when he changed positions, I have met her, she's short, petite and skinny, I overhead one of the other guys he works with if she was "hot" because apparently she sounds hot on the phone, he said "yeah, she's pretty hot", I was standing right there!! Now every time he talks to her (we work for same company) it makes my skin crawl!! And I don't trust her... even though she's given me no reason to not trust her.


ARGH! I walked in him talking to HER today! She rang him to asked about something she had seen that I had put into the system, rather than ringing me directly! GRR!! She also heard through the company grapevine that I'm PG! I don't know why this woman annoys me so much, she doesn't even live in the same city! Insecure much?? ]]> Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:00:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1050047&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1050047 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Ha ha escadachic, I am so the...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049937&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049937 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 June 2010 at 6:36pm

Ha ha escadachic, I am so the same. I value sleep SO much, I always tell DH to be quick :-) My DH has asked me to stay up before, not to have sex or anything but just to hang out as we hardly have time for that these days. But I am too reluctant as I never know what sort of night I am in for.

Another stupid thing to feel guilty about!]]> Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:36:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049937&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049937 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : I took a pregnancy test. Yay...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049792&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049792 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 June 2010 at 4:29pm

I took a pregnancy test. Yay negative! It must be stress then aye. I felt super paranoid before hand, as I realized it is at least 2 weeks late, but thank God, it's not pregnancy! I think I will talk to DP tonight about if we want another child one day, as if we don't, I will get something more permanent, like having my tubes tied.

Regarding sex. I often do it out of obligation too. Like last night, DP wanted it and I was like, oh but then I'll get less sleep. Cause I hadn't managed to fall asleep before he got to bed, like usual. Yeah I had to go write in my diary damn it and so I was still awake. But I made sure he didn't take his time. He was trying with the foreplay and I just wouldn't let him and told him not to take too long, as I need my sleep. Insensitive aren't I?! Yup, I would rather have sleep then sex. But only because I lack sleep and want to get as much as possible when I do go to bed.]]> Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:29:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049792&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049792 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Hands up for another with MIA...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049599&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049599 Author: girly_girl
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 June 2010 at 2:32pm

Hands up for another with MIA sex drive - poor DH its been months since we've even gone there, I think the last time was in the second trimester? Thank god for a patient man is all I can say. Yay Lisa, that sounds promising - what a lovely man you have there.]]> Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:32:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049599&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049599 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Oh you poor thing escadachic....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049163&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049163 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 June 2010 at 9:12am

Oh you poor thing escadachic. Sounds like you are having a really rough patch. TRY (I know it is hard!) not to do the what ifs about the seatbelt. You got home in one piece and Annabelle is okay!

I definitely think it can be stress that causes you not to be regular. Our bodies are so sensitive sometimes! Cross the possible pregnancy bridge if and when you have to.

Ha ha listen to me full of advice! I should take my own :-)

nzlisajo how fantastic that you found your mojo. Your DF sounds absolutely lovely and so understanding :-)

I also have a non-existant sex drive, but I can't blame it on being a new mum or meds or anything - I didn't really ever have one! :-) But it is definitely worse now. I do "it" out of obligation really :-) I feel sorry for my DH who would do it every day if he got the chance! Sometimes I worry that he will go elsewhere :-( Silly really but I guess that is what us girls do!

My 4 month old boy is SOOooooo grizzly at the moment! At times it really annoys me :-( I don't know what is wrong (teeth maybe? or lack of bowel motions?) and nothing I do seems to make him feel better. Totally sucks.

I am also trying to stop myself getting obsessed with him sleeping through the night. He has done it a number of times of his own accord, but is back to waking once for a feed. Is it habit or need? Who knows. But I am too much of a wuss to "force" him or to let him CIO. I do kind of enjoy the closeness of those feeds though (he is so cuddly and sleepy) :-)

Wow I have written a novel. Sorry :-)


]]> Tue, 01 Jun 2010 09:12:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049163&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049163 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Well my mojo came back last night!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049126&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049126 Author: Richie
Subject: 22323
Posted: 01 June 2010 at 8:24am

Well my mojo came back last night! Wahoo! We still didn't 'do it' but had nice kisses and cuddles and touchy feely time lol and I actually felt sexy! Was the first time I'd gone to bed without wearing a top to cover my stomach. I guess I've always been worried that DF will find it a turn off. But he was so good. He just touched me the same as he did before I got pregnant so I completely forgot about stretchmarks and saggy belly. I think I have the best man in the world I was keen to go all the way but DF told me to just take things slowly cause he knows how upset I was last time we tried to have sex so he wanted to make sure I was ready (awwwwwwww) so if I'm still in the same mood tonight we might have to try again me thinks! It's amazing how good I feel this morning!]]> Tue, 01 Jun 2010 08:24:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049126&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049126 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Oh escadachic, what a huge fright...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049046&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049046 Author: MonicaMouse
Subject: 22323
Posted: 31 May 2010 at 10:51pm

Oh escadachic, what a huge fright that must have given you finding Annabelle's seat belt not clipped in. I know I was angry at myself when we got home one night after visiting the ILs to find that Daniel wasn't strapped into his seat. I had strapped him in, and put a blanket over him and FIL had taken him out for cuddles, and later put him back in and not strapped him in, yet put the blanket over him. Yes we should have checked but I knew I had strapped him in earlier.

sex drive..whats that?......DH and I often joke about it. If one of us has to go to the shop, we ask the other one if there is anything that the other needs, and the response is yes, but I don't think they sell it. At least we can laugh about it at times]]> Mon, 31 May 2010 22:51:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049046&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049046 <![CDATA[Whos got PND or PTSD? : Man, I felt like such utter crap...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049019&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049019 Author: escadachic
Subject: 22323
Posted: 31 May 2010 at 10:11pm

Man, I felt like such utter crap earlier today. Things just weren't going my way. First, I was at the caryard getting a loan car while they fix our car and it took me a while to get the seatbelt through the car seat(Annabelle is in the convertible car seat now) Then as I was trying to adjust the side mirrors, which didn't move via the electric function in the car, which was stuffed, so I discovered, the parking warden came over and rather rudely told me to leave and looked like he was contemplating giving me a ticket. So I got a bit upset with him and told him to give me a break, I was getting sorted so I could leave and then he was all like, you have been here for ages and I said, yes, because it took ages to get the seat belt through the car seat and he was like, move the car now. So I was like fine, ffs, don't be such a dick, it's not my fault, I had no help!!! So then I went down the road while feeling rather upset and at the lights, I was turning right, so had right of way with the person turning left opposite me and then I am turning and a car comes from behind the other car suddenly, going straight and towards me. I was freaking out after that closeish call. Was feeling rather upset by then and then I went to get Annabelle out of car seat and discovered her seat belt was not clipped in. You see when I was at the caryard trying to get seat belt through the car seat, I ended up having to unclip her seat belt and obviously due to her being wrapped in a blanket, I had failed to notice the seat belt still undone after about 20mins or so of trying to get the seat belt through the car seat. So I went into the baby factory, got some stuff from there and got back in the car and bawled my eyes out. I felt like such atter crap! I had been so proud of myself for not forgetting to do up Annabelle's seat belt so far. And I felt so bad that I forgot, especially with the close call at the lights. I was like f**k! If I had have gotten hit, what would've happened to Annabelle?! I would have never forgiven myself for any harm that had come to her. Yeah her seat belt was still over her arms, but it wasn't clipped in. Argh!!! Scary!

And at the moment, though I'm on the mini-pill, I'm a bit paranoid that my period hasn't come yet. As I have had it twice since Annabelle was born and both times, regular and exactly a month apart. I hope it's just stress that has screwed up my cycle. As I mentioned my worry to DP and he made it clear that we can't have another baby so soon, if the worse case scenario happened. I was like, yeah I get that, but I have had a termination before(before I ever met him) and last time I got severely depressed and wanted to kill myself. Like I couldn't handle being pregnant to my DP and having a termination. How could I or him live with ourselves if we ended a babies life we had made together. It's a different story to my past termination. I was single and mentally could not cope with having a baby not knowing who the Dad was(it was between 2 guys) and never having any support from them. I just couldn't have that baby and my older DD who was still in Kindy. It was hard enough doing that. As I was totally anti-abortion and here was I, left with this great big, horrible decision and the feeling and guilt left after the fact. Oh, I so hope my period comes soon or that it is just stress slowing my period from appearing. As I take my mini-pill the same time every day.

Edited by escadachic]]> Mon, 31 May 2010 22:11:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=22323&PID=1049019&title=whos-got-pnd-or-ptsd#1049019