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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : Do you really think calling another...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 November 2009 at 7:08pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Do you really think calling another clinic would work? Where would we call? We are in ChCh. I would have thought that doing a phone consult would result in the 'we can do better come up to us' and there's no way we can afford to do anymore let alone time off to go elsewhere etc.</P><P align=left>I'm about to approach DH about going to a natural fertility clinic and trying&nbsp;to&nbsp;do the realm of tests they do and supplements etc as required prior to our next transfer&nbsp;- even if it doesn't help our fertility probs it would definitely help our lifestyle and candidiasis etc we suffer from!</P><P align=left>Tanners, I'm so pleased you are finally at this stage - GL x 100!!!</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : Hi Tanner&amp;#039;s I also have problems...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20439">Happy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 November 2009 at 6:53pm<br /><br />Hi Tanner's<br />I also have problems with my transfer's and have to have a mock transfer, before the real transfer's ...  I find it really quite painful.<br /><br />I hope this is the one for you]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : Hi everyone I&amp;#039;m really happy...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23077">Tanners</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 November 2009 at 6:10pm<br /><br />Hi everyone<br />I'm really happy to be able to join you on this thread - TER booked in for Monday.<br /><br />Its been a roller coaster ride already with my 1st IVF going all the way to transfer before they found no opening to the uterus so  "Bill and Bob" had to be put on ice.<br /><br />So have just recovered from my op and went to clinic today to do a 'mock transfer' which went well(ie they got the catheter needle in)  so just have to do that for real on Monday and  get those little embies in!<br /><br />Tischler - I agree with Mtjt about calling another clinic, I have heard of others changing clnics after no sucess and getting their much wanted BFP! good luck!<br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Tanners</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 November 2009 at 3:58pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Thanks happy -&nbsp;I do know what you mean about always being in the back of your mind!</P><P align=left>I hope IVF cycle #3 is 3rd time lucky for you <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">&nbsp;Good luck.</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : Hi girls Tischler I&amp;#039;m so...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20439">Happy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 November 2009 at 2:36pm<br /><br />Hi girls<br />Tischler I'm so sad for you it was a negative result that truely sux big time!! It just doesn't get any easier!! You enjoy life for a few months with out worring about ivf if that can at all be possible it's alway's at the back of our heads....<br /><br />AFM I'm at day 2 of the gonal injections time is draggging by so slow.... i also can't get my head around the fact that this will be my 7th transfer grrrr please work please work!! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Hi to everyone else]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : Hi Tischler - my thoughts are...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 November 2009 at 9:09pm<br /><br />Hi Tischler - my thoughts are with you at this very sad time.. i know how you must be feeling..<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Hey, if you can get a 2nd opinion i sure would try..maybe you can call another clinic they may provide an over the phone consult if its out of town?? worth a try huh??<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : Tischler- so sorry for you- that...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 November 2009 at 8:00am<br /><br />Tischler- so sorry for you- that really sucks. I will be thinking of you. I know what you mean about the stress and having a few months off- I hope that you look after yourselves. Please keep in touch.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 November 2009 at 8:23pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Thanks so much! </P><P align=left>I don't think there's any other clinic in Christchurch so we can't go elsewhere. Last time they told us that the embies decide whether to stick or not, and there's nothing we or they can do (otherwise they'd have a 100% track record and they'd be very happy too). Sux really!</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : I&amp;#039;m  so sorry Tischler......]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23077">Tanners</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 November 2009 at 8:05pm<br /><br />I'm  so sorry Tischler...  I really thought that this time was going to be it for you. Do you think you will try another clinic or be able to find out why the embies  arent sticking? <br /><br />What a roller coaster ride you have been on since May, I hope you really enjoy this time out with your DH and will have my  fingers crossed that a BFP awaits you in the new year!<br /><br />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : Oh no, I&amp;#039;m so so sorry Tischler,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 November 2009 at 6:51pm<br /><br />Oh no, I'm so so sorry Tischler, its so unfair that we have to go thru so much and we don't always get the result we so desperatly want!<br /><br />Big <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> 's to you, take care of yourself and your DH.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : Hi guys, well I&amp;#039;m out. AF...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 November 2009 at 3:55pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Hi guys, well I'm out. AF arrived this morning. I knew when I woke up - I just woke up thinking "I'm not pregnant" then sure enough. It was quite surreal. So we will be relying on our 2 final frozens (#6 and #7) which will probably be transferred in February.</P><P align=left>I do have to say that since May I've been the biggest emotional wreck so I'm looking forward to a couple of months of not thinking about it. It's dam hard.</P><P align=left>Good luck to all of you with your ventures .... I'm over and out till Feb <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"></P><P align=left>I so hope you all get the BFP's you deserve!</P><P align=left>&nbsp;</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 November 2009 at 3:23pm<br /><br />Hiya ladies,<br /><br />Oh Tischler, could that be implantation spotting like mtjt says, thats exciting for you, it must be a good thing that its gone away surely?  Have everthing crossed for you, good luck with the HPT, I've never been brave enough to do one!<br /><br />Hey mtjt, I might be in later this week, I'll text you anyway and see what your up to, I start taking the asprin this week, feels really weird to be starting something so early when I've got ages to go yet, oh well.<br /><br />Hope1, glad to hear you are able to start the roller coaster again, to get your BFP would be the best Xmas present ever!<br /><br />Have a good day everyone!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : Mtjt- we read a greast book by...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 November 2009 at 9:03am<br /><br />Mtjt- we read a greast book by a fertilty specialist in UK- I lent it to someone but will get the name- from what I remember it was continual and as you said it takes 3 months to make it so you dont want any old stuff in there!? The book said that when trying to concieve you should nto just do it at ovulation you should do it regularly for sperm quality so I guess the same applies for us!!<br /><br />Tischler- from my experience I would stay away from the HPT- you never know if your response will be accurate and its devastating if negative it just creates more nerves and stress (for me anyway)- after I had done it I wished I had waited!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 November 2009 at 8:47am<br /><br />Hi Tischler<br />hey, that could that be implantation?? <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> Oh fingers are crossed for you!!!!! dont you HATE the wait.. grhhhh<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> i bet you just wanna know ...<br />good luck!<br /><br />Hi hope 1 - thanks for your advise re (testicular semen) as less "stressed" and also the frequent release makes better healthier sperm.. Hey another question for you, how long before EC (egg collection) should the "frequency" take place - ie 2 weeks 4 weeks?? just curious.. <br />I know what you mean - the things we have to do!<br /><br />Hey country girl, thanks for your advice - re vits etc to take.  Im taking elevit and DH taking menevit  - we  got told by FA dr thats all we need... hmmm i will definitely ask about the others you mentioned..Hope you all well<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 November 2009 at 7:19pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Hi guys, just an update. I had spotting yesterday morning, which stopped just after lunch and there's been nothing more since. I was so sure AF was arriving that I went out for coffee and thought 'buggar it' but now my hopes are slightly increasing. It's 14 days since collection today, and I believe that's when AF should arrive ..... having lots of AF signs though they could just be pessary related .... 3 days to BT - shall I do a HPT in the meantime? Is 15DPO to early? <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sec&#111;nd IVF Treatment : Hey girlies  My DH has 100 MAR...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21906">Country girl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 November 2009 at 5:22pm<br /><br />Hey girlies<br /><br />My DH has 100 MAR (antibodies) and prior to our last cycle he took - menevit, vitiman E, micro genics Mega B - high potency, and really high dosage of manuka honey and fish oil. no baths or spas but he did have a daily beer and couple of cups of coffee - he is a dairy farmer and I didnt think he would survive without the caffiene!<br />We added these vitamins for our second cycle and his sperm were heaps better quality than the first cycle - resulting in grade 5 embryos that implanted so maybe you could try the same.... Just an idea<br />I keep popping in every now and then hunting for more BFP's - good luck!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 November 2009 at 4:20pm<br /><br />Mtjt- there is some research that says the testticular semen taken at reversal is "less stressed" so may be better quality- so we will have that, frozen and fresh ready for use!!! Cover all bases.<br /><br />And re your advise- we have also done a bit of reading and this will be TMI but apparently if you "release" every few days (2 x a weekish) you have better quality- so that what he does (or we do)- sorry I know thats so personal but if it helps the quality!! And then there is no old swimmers in there!! UGH what we have to go through!!<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 November 2009 at 4:00pm<br /><br />Hello again everyone..<br /><br />Tischler - the countdown is on!!! heres hoping for BFP!!! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Hope1 - good luck with this next cycle - interesting that you will be using DH testicular semen this time... i wonder if its because "fresher" sperm??? i must ask this question for our next go..<br /><br />Tanners - good luck with your next cycle. Idont remember ever being hot? taking pessaries?? who knows the bod can do weird things aye..<br /><br />Scardycat - how you doing? if you in town let me know we must catch up for coffee!! - yep decafe for me i know !! ha ha <br /><br />Anyway update for you all...<br /><br />Got a phone call from the Doctor at FA hamilton and looks like we can have another cycle very soon once i have AF in dec - YAY!!!!!. Since i had a better response to the long protocol looks like they going to put me on this again. So if all goes well could be late jan/early feb Egg collection and hope for BFP - 3rd time lucky aye!!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Also some good advice for those of you with DH sperm antibodies - apparently prior to ECollection best for the freshest sperm as possible as these will be better quality and less likely to be damaged due to being inside body too long.  Remember takes about 3 mths to make sperm...<br /><br />Gosh their are a few of us going thru the ivf cycle more than once aye, it seems a numbers game and am trying to stay positive thru all this.. <br /><br />GOOD LUCK TO US ALL!!<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 November 2009 at 8:35am<br /><br />Ho all- saw specialsit friday- heading into another cycle- today is day 9, start injections day 21- so should have egg collection etc second week december. Going to use DHs testicular semen that they got when they did the reversal- specialist thinks this may give better quality semen and embryos.<br /><br />Said also if I do another TER I should do manufactured as my lining wasnt very thick. He said that prob wasnt reason emby didnt take but good to know.<br /><br />So- here we go again!!! I really hope for BFP by xmas.<br /><br />Hey guys where do I go to update my signature? I cant find it anymore!!<br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Hope1</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 October 2009 at 3:44pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Hi Tanners, not sure after TER, I'm trying to think back. I actually think I may have been but then it stopped as I'm sure with all transfers I've been really hot at night. I'm still having it, and 5 days to go till BT. I'm wondering whether I might do a HPT on Tuesday (3 days) if AF hasn't arrived (I've had lots of signs she's coming). I'd just like to know, but then I'd hate if it was a false result.</P><P align=left>It sounds like things are going to be all go for you really soon Tanners, that is fantastic - look forward to hearing when you have transfer - yay!!!</P><P align=left>Apparently there's some signs of pg i.e. temperature stays up, cervix stays high and closed but I think it varies between people, and it's going to extremes to try and track all that. I'm really just taking every day as it comes as from now I can't do anything else!!</P><P align=left>Oh well, tomorrow will be 4 days and that will be 4 days to your BT and scan too!</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23077">Tanners</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 31 October 2009 at 1:09pm<br /><br />Hi Tischler<br />WOW only a few more days to go - really have my fingers crossed for you for a BFP!!!<br /><br />Reallly interested to hear about the temperature thing - does it apply to a TER too I wonder or just a fresh transfer using the pessaries.<br /><br />I have recovered from my op and now on progynova, I have a scan and BT on Thursday to determine when my TER will happen, if all goes well then it will be booked for the following Monday. Because I am on a manufactured cycle I will have to take the pessaries as well after transfer so definitely keen to find out about the "hot" thing.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 October 2009 at 6:52pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Yeah I'd never really noticed before either until talking with DH who was laughing how 'hot' I was in bed <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">&nbsp;</P><P align=left>I'm not anticipating it's a pg sign for me, too early, as BT isn't until next Thursday (8 days to go). But thought it was interesting, and wondered if anyone else had noticed it. They told me to take panadol if my temperature got high, so thought this time I'd keep monitoring it (esp when it felt so hot there) and go down the panadol route right through.</P><P align=left>We managed to get 2 embryo's successfully frozen at cleavage stage (think thats around 6-cell, day 3). So there's still plan D, if #4 and #5 haven't hatched and attached this time. But I'm sure they will have (power of positive thinking at work). </P><P align=left>I'm talking to them anyway, and making DH do the same - hehe, anyone'd think we're nuts if they saw us <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">&nbsp;especially when they realise we are carrying crystals around in our pockets!?*</P><P align=left>Anything's worth a try eh!</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 October 2009 at 6:28pm<br /><br />Hi Tischler, can't help you either sorry I really didn't notice temp being higher or warmer than normal, I too will take note next time though!<br /><br />Good luck, I hope it is a good sign for you!  Whens your BT again?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20439">Happy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 October 2009 at 6:10pm<br /><br />Hi tischler<br />i've never noticed my temp being higher and warm inside, I'll take note this time though!!<br /><br />How is everyone going?? I'm doing ok day 3 of the buserelin have very mild headaches and that is all so far....]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 October 2009 at 5:06pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Hi guys, just checking in here, gonna copy a post I put in another thread just to see if any of you have an opinion ....</P><P align=left>Have any of you noticed increased temps? TMI but when inserting pessaries, I've noticed it's really hot, and when it is, I check my temp and it's often up around 37.5. I then take panadol to try to keep it down cos I know it's not good to be too hot 'up there'.</P><P align=left>I recall after my last transfers that I initially was quite hot (didn't take temps those times though) but after a while (don't know how long) that stopped. I asked in the 2ww thread, and they said&nbsp; that the temp generally stays up before pg, so wonder if that's a sign.</P><P align=left>Anyway, just wondered if anyone else had noticed that?</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20439">Happy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 October 2009 at 7:22pm<br /><br />Hi ladies<br />Hope so sorry you got a BFN I know how much they hurt , it doesn' get any easier at all... <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I looked into the lipidol study and signed up for it but unfortunately I'm one of the woman who got the non lipidol study.... was a bit gutted as I was going to just pay for it as am having another govt funded cycle cost is $900 . I also nearly paid to ahve it done last year before starting IVF but choose to go straight into IVF.<br /><br />I do like the sound of the lipidol as I have endo and have had 6 good qaulity blasties fail so am thinking implantation problems.... my dr RF at FA said there is no real evidence that it works so who know's .... I'd try anything!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 October 2009 at 5:17pm<br /><br />Hi everyone<br /><br />Hope1 and Tischler - we have lots in common!! my DH too had a reversal, and now got antibodies.  Because of this the only way is IVF/icsi...<br /><br />He also feels guilty and upset about the whole thing.. We are having to pay another private cycle approx $10k (our 3rd) as we cannot wait a year for our next public one.. Im not getting any younger..<br />I dont know how we going to come up with the $$ but we have no option...<br /><br />As mentioned before its a numbers game so hopefully 3rd time lucky !!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 October 2009 at 5:08pm<br /><br />Oh no Lee, I'm so so sorry it was BFN for you, sending you big <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> , hope you are Ok as can be right now, thinking of you.<br /><br />And no I don't think I've heard of Lipidol, might have to do some more googling!<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by ScaredyCat</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 October 2009 at 3:29pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Hi Lee, so sorry it was definitely a BFN, I found that both times AF arrived before BT I knew that the BT was just a formality, somehow I just knew. It sux. </P><P align=left>I totally know how you feel re: costs etc, you're right probably like most of us! We have paid for 2 private IVF cycles now at $14k a pop (since I need so many drugs), plus a vasectomy reversal, plus a transfer! My DH gets really angry too, but I have to persuade him to look at the bigger picture as the cost will be forgotten once we have our baby (or after it's a few years old!). <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif" border="0"></P><P align=left>For me, my DH felt really guilty he couldn't 'provide' and at times I felt upset that he'd had a vasectomy or that I met him so late. Now that we know my fertility is also a problem I think it has eased both our burdens a bit. But the crux of the matter is that we would never have met if our lives hadn't worked out the way it has, and I couldn't do without him.<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley27.gif" border="0"></P><P align=left>It's such a shame that you couldn't get on with&nbsp;another try&nbsp;this cycle!&nbsp; We did, and I'm trying to work out how now. No we didn't, I think once we knew the transfer was BFN I got them to do day 3 bloods as well, and we booked in to see the specialist ASAP and managed to get in the following month. I hope your specialist can see you quickly - make lots of noises!!!</P><P align=left>Make sure you grieve and do nice things together with DH. It's times like these you really need support, and I agree, this forum is fantastic - especially if not many others know what's going on. </P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 October 2009 at 2:52pm<br /><br />Hi everyone- thanks so much for your lovely emails- so yesterday was a definate BFN. I thought I would be able to go straight to another cycle but we have to have a review with our specialist- god knows how long that'll take!!!<br /><br />Tischler- keep those hopes high- it would be great if we could get another BFP- its been a while eh!<br /><br />Scardy cat- not long for your frozen- thats fab. I hope that this wee emby sticks for you- have you heard of that lipidol (?) trial- isnt that supposed to help them stick? I dunno!<br /><br />Mtjt- sounds like you have the same issues- (I guess we all do) I get so mad that this costs so much, my friend in Oz pays $2,000!! And then they get $4,000 when they have a baby over there! We may have to add to the mortgage again or borrow from family. I'm not eligible for the private waiting list until next July- which I think is wierd and will get my specialist to explain this to me again. Anyway we will try one more private and then wait for the public. I get so scared that we will pay another $10k and get nothing. I was looking at that "fertility cover" option but that STARTS at $24,000!!!<br /><br />My DH gets so angry at everyone, god, Fert Assc, himself- its really hard. He had a vascectomy and we did a reversal but now he has this problem where his sperm all clumps together- so he has all this guilt that its all his fault (apparently I'm ok- but you never know). Not sure how to deal with that- maybe the counsellor?<br /><br />Anyway- I have rabbited on, thanks again to everyone who sent their love- not sure what I would do without this forum!!!<br /><br />Keep trying everyone!! We can do it!!<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Hope1</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 October 2009 at 5:13pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Oh Hope1 - no way, that's just gutting. I'm with everyone else, I really hope it is a BFP underneath the AF. Really, really, really, really hope. BFN's are just so hard to deal with and we've all been there, there's not much else we can say, except big&nbsp;<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0">s. Look after yourself, and keep us posted. Am thinking of you!</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 October 2009 at 4:21pm<br /><br />Oh no Hope1, so sorry to read about horrible AF turning up, like the others say, I hope its a false alarm and you get some better news later <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21672">sugarbaby</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 October 2009 at 1:52pm<br /><br />Oh, sending love, Hun<br />XXX]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 October 2009 at 1:32pm<br /><br />Hello Hope - so sorry to hear that you think AF has arrived<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0">  heartbreaking isnt it...I also hoping that this is a false alarm..<br /><br />I would very much advise to see the DR and get some answers if you can...I have been told this is often a numbers game so if this is a bfn for you maybe 3rd time lucky??????.<br /><br />We just completed our 2nd round and got a bfn which was very upsetting also. We in the same boat as we are having to come up with more $$$$  as we have to do ivd/icsi so approx $10k for us, and like you we dont know where the moneys going to come from either.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Our first cycle was private which we paid for, 2nd was public and now on waiting list for 2nd public funded cycle as we cant wait a year  as im not getting any younger we are looking at doing another private cycle in the meantime... Very daunting and scary<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />We ended up getting a 2nd opinion and we maybe trying a different clinic this time..<br /><br />Again my heart goes out to your and your DH - i know what you are going thru...<br /><br />All the best and dont give up - im not going to.. We all have to keep strong and positive even though at times its sooo hard to... Prayers for us all!!<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by mtjt</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21427">tulips</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 October 2009 at 9:57am<br /><br />Hope 1 - I'm very sorry to hear that. It is so heartbreaking. Fingers crossed the bleeding is a false alarm. Thinking of you!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 October 2009 at 8:17am<br /><br />Hi guys AF arrived last night. Off to have BT blood know its a BFN, am going to count today as day 1 and start another private cycle. Both v stressed, not sure where money will come from but I dont want to put it off. Gutted<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20439">Happy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 October 2009 at 3:58pm<br /><br />Hi girls<br />All the best tischler for your tww...<br />mtji thatnks for the info you privated messaged me I was thinking about seeing repromed but didn't get round to it...<br /><br />hope don't lose hope just yet it is still to early!!<br /><br />AFM I saw a new acu lady today she seemed to know what she was doing so will stick with her for this cycle. I start my injections on Monday <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Baby dust to us all ....]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 October 2009 at 3:49pm<br /><br />Excellent Tischler, you just need to kick back and relax now, all that hard work is done, well done!!  Hoping you have lots of distracting things planned for the next couple of weeks.<br /><br />Hope1, don't lose hope, some of the HPT's out there aren't very sensitive and you could be just plain too early yet, fingers crossed for you!<br /><br />I'm about to start again soon with my last frozen embie, I had a really good follow up meeting with the Dr and she has changed us to the Colorado protocol which uses the Asprin and a few other things to help things along, so hopefully that will make the difference for us this time.  <br /><br />Failing that, unfort its back to the public waiting list for us which she advised is about a year <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> .  I asked about doing a couple of rounds of IUI if we have to wait that long and she thought it would be worth a go as we produce really good embies, just having trouble with the sticking part!! So all in all, not feeling too bad, just hope this last embie works!!<br /><br />Sorry about the novel!!<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by ScaredyCat</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 October 2009 at 3:11pm<br /><br />Yay Tischler- good luck! <br /><br />Will keep you all posted, BT on Sunday- so should know for sure by Sunday night. I'm not holding out much hope now, am preparing myself for next Mondays period and if so that'll be day one for a whole new cycle. I WILL be pregnant by xmas......I hope.<br /><br />Scardy cat- when is your appt at Fert assc? Good luck.<br /><br />Hope everyone else is ok too]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 October 2009 at 2:05pm<br /><br />Oh Hope1, I also hope it was just too early or maybe it wasn't a very good brand of HPT. I guess you just have to hang in there over the weekend and see what the BT says - Fx'd!<br /><br />I'm just home from transfer. 1 embryo was 10 cell and 1 at 8 cell stage. So that's good for a day 3 transfer. They had to put local into my cervix and use something to keep it open this time to get the embryo's in the right place, so quite crampy.<br /><br />They are freezing 1 at 6 cell stage and the others were at 5 cell and 4 cell early this morning, so if they have grown on to 6 cell they'll freeze them or else try to grow them on to blastocyst and freeze them then if they survive. So at least we have 1 frozen backup in case (BUT WE WON'T NEED IT - positive affirmations here!!).<br /><br />So the 2ww begins. Right off to keep the legs up and crossed <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 October 2009 at 11:56am<br /><br />Oh no Hope1, here's hoping its just too early for you.  Have everything crossed for your BT!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 October 2009 at 8:02am<br /><br />Good luck for today Tischler.<br /><br />I did the HPT and it was negative- have talked to a friend in oz and she said she didnt get a positive until 2 days before her period was due- so i am holding some hope but wish I hadnt done it!! Should've just waited!! My BT is still 4 days away so fingers crossed everyone. Gutted today- feel really low!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 October 2009 at 9:34pm<br /><br />Good luck for tomorrow and the following 2WW Tischler, fingers crossed for you!<br /><br />Hope1, good luck with whatever decision you decide to make re the HPT, I so hope its a BFP for you and you can celebrate over the weekend!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21427">tulips</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 October 2009 at 5:37pm<br /><br />Tischler<br /><br />All the best for your transfer tomorrow!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 October 2009 at 4:39pm<br /><br />Hi guys, have had the decision taken out of my hands - thank goodness!!<br /><br />We have transfer tomorrow. Today the wee embies were growing, 1 @ 6-cell, 2 @ 4-cell, and 2 @ 2-cell, so we are going to transfer 2 tomorrow.<br /><br />Hopefully we will have 1 to freeze as well, but I think the 2-cell ones aren't looking great.<br /><br />Hope1 - no harm in doing a HPT, though aren't you doing your BT on Saturday anyway? When will they get the results through to you? <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley25.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 October 2009 at 8:00am<br /><br />Hi mtjt- thanks heaps for your thoughs- yep you are right, I analyse every twinge, have been quite crampy for the last few days and tender boobs but not sore so I dunno!!!<br /><br />Am thinking of doing a home preg test on Friday, coz we have guests for the weekend and it will be pretty hard to get bad news then. What do you guys think??]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2009 at 8:19pm<br /><br />Fantastic mtjt, that's great that you are getting some more tests done. I had the AMH done and it certainly helped some of our decisions, I have v. low fertility - so hopefully our little embies are growing strong!<br /><br />I haven't heard about the tunel test etc for DH as mine had to have TESA, but I'm sure any answers you get will all help in the long run.<br /><br />Good luck, and hope someone else can come up with some info for you <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2009 at 8:07pm<br /><br />Good luck again Tischler!! <br />Wow you have had 3 transferred! surely you will get a BFP... I dont know much about day 3 vs day 5 but im sure youre getting the right advice..Will look forward to hearing how your 2ww goes..<br /><br />Hope 1 - not long to go for your BT!! yay!! how you feeling?? I can imagine that you are aware of every twinge and cramp ... i surely was... good luck!! will be thinking of you Sunday for your BT!!! heres hoping for a BFP!!!<br /><br />Well, heres my update.....I had a 2nd opinion recently with another fert specialist (this time auckland based) and he recommending me get an AMH bloodtest (which i have just had done today) to check out how many eggs left, and DH a Tunel test or dna fragmentation test of some kind (to check for sperm dna issues etc).. At least we will have a better understanding of why we not getting good embies...<br /><br />Has anyone elses DH had this test done? and what outcomes were?? Would be interested to know more about this.. <br /><br /><br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by mtjt</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2009 at 6:37pm<br /><br />Oh wow Tischler, well done on getting 5 out of 6 to fertilise, thats great news and what a decision for you!! Like it isn't confusing enough!<br /><br />Anyway here's my two cents worth, I have had three transfers, 1  x  Day 3 fresh, BFP (but miscarried) and 2 x thawed Day 3 (one BFP but miscarried and one negative), I have absolutely no opinion on which way to go, but thought would throw that into the mix!!<br /><br />Can you take some to Day 5 and leave some at Day 3 or do they like to keep them all the same?<br /><br />Good luck, I hope the Drs or nurses give you some help tomorrow on your decision making!  ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2009 at 5:25pm<br /><br />Thanks moogle and congrats too. I'm hoping that they may give me a bit more guidance tomorrow when they call. I've had 3 blastocysts transferred, 1 fresh, 2 frozen, so I know they can get to that stage. Didn't know they were harder to thaw though ....<br /><br />Happy to keep getting people's opinions, am drawing my own conclusion, but great to see what you all think too.<br /><br />Love the support on these forums - thanks! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23277">Moogle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2009 at 2:47pm<br /><br />Tischler - A very hard decision for you! I can't tell you what to do but I had 3 put backs (3 dayers 2 fresh 1 TER) with no success I am currently 7 weeks preg with a thawed day 5 blastie. It's a bit of a gamble either way blasties are harder to thaw but have a better success rate. As Tulips said this is just MY opinion. The lab staff should be helping you make a more informed choice. Good Luck!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2009 at 12:43pm<br /><br />Jeepers Tischler what a decision!! I can also understand what Tulips is saying. In Australia they promote the blast, but NZ seems to go either way. I have never been asked which to have, that makes it so hard on you.<br /><br />Could you ask to speak to your specialist or talk to the counsellor? This is such an important decision!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2009 at 11:37am<br /><br />Hi Tulips, thanks for that. I did wonder if there's anything in the 'stickability' related to how long the embryo is 'out' of the body, some sort of lack of hormone/vibes thing??<br /><br />Given that, they say that if they aren't going to continue to grow in the lab then they wouldn't in the body either, then it could be a 'wasted' 2ww (though you'd never know it).<br /><br />Given that though, I did have 8 fertilise last time and only 3 lived on to blastocyst (don't know what 'day' the others stopped developing).<br /><br />Can you tell I'm sitting on the fence at the moment!? They are going to ring me tomorrow morning to let me know how the 5 are going, so maybe that will help our decisions ............]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21427">tulips</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2009 at 10:44am<br /><br />Tanners<br />I'll be 12 weeks on Thursday. Looking forward to that milestone. It hasn't been smooth sailing - I'm off work for 2 weeks to stop the bleeding. We've had scans at 7 & 11 weeks. Going for another one next week!<br /><br />Tischler<br />Wow - that is really good to have so many fertilise. After following the progress of many women on the forums, so many seem to lose most of their embryos in the lab between 3-5 days. I personally prefer 3 day. If you have lots of embryos the clinic likes to take them through to 5 day to let nature decide which are fittest. I got pregnant with a 3-day embryo and we also have 3 frozen embryos, one of which is a blastocyst. This is just MY opinion! GOOD LUCK.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23479">rosiefarmer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2009 at 9:52am<br /><br />Hi Tischler,<br />Great news on your embryo's, have no idea what you should do, but got everything crossed for you.<br />All the best.<br />I am still waiting to hear...arghhh...]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 October 2009 at 9:45am<br /><br /> <strong>I need your help!!!</strong> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />We had 5/6 eggs fertilise, so have 5 little embryo's growing.<br /><br />The scientist basically gave us the option of whether to go for transfer on Thursday or wait till blastocyst and go for Saturday. <br /><br />What would you do?????<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley25.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2009 at 8:53pm<br /><br />Hi Tischler - Good luck with those eggs and fingers crossed that they fertilise!! 6 eggs is a good number.  Im sure you will be a bit sore today and tired so do rest up.. Embie transfer only a couple of days away!! take care <br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2009 at 6:57pm<br /><br />Tanners - that's fantastic news!! You won't be too far behind me <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> Sometimes things which seem so far away sneak up really quickly don't they!<br /><br />Thanks for your good wishes guys, I'm really hoping for at least 2 embryo's - preferrably 6!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23077">Tanners</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2009 at 6:41pm<br /><br />Hi Tischler - been lurking on here to see how you have been getting on. So wrapped to hear you got 6 eggs - fingers crossed you get great embies out of all of them.<br /><br />I had my operation today (almost completed a round of IVF but they couldnt put my embies in because there was no opening into the uterus). Operation went really well and they have created an opening to use for the transfer which they want to do asap. It could be within 2weeks!<br /><br />Hi Tulips - how are you doing, you must be 2months now, have you had your first scan?<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2009 at 5:41pm<br /><br />Yay Tischler thats great news, well done!!<br /><br />Feel for you Hope1, know what you going through, hang in there!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21427">tulips</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2009 at 3:48pm<br /><br />Well done Tischler! Take it easy over the next few days. I always got a bit of pain after pick-up.<br /><br />Hope1 - not many sleeps to go. Fingers crossed!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2009 at 2:20pm<br /><br />Hi, 6 eggs collected today. Will find out tomorrow how many fertilise. I have everything crossed!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 October 2009 at 8:57am<br /><br />Hope today goes/went well Tischler, lots of eggs and then lots of embryos!! Keep us posted.<br /><br />Still waiting for BT, not sure if any symptoms- pretty crampy at times, boobs a little tender but who knows- you end up analysing everything!!<br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 October 2009 at 9:56am<br /><br />Thats great Tischler, well done, must be a relief for you!<br /><br />Good luck for Monday!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 October 2009 at 6:23pm<br /><br />Just checking in ... scan went well today and we have collection on Monday <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 October 2009 at 4:31pm<br /><br />Yay, excellent news Hope1, fingers crossed for you!!  Hope the 2WW flies by.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 October 2009 at 3:53pm<br /><br />Hey Hope1 - great news. Hope you've got lots of nice things planned for the 2ww, and a whole lot of distractions <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">  Fx'd!!!!!<br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 October 2009 at 10:31am<br /><br />Hi all. Well transfer went well- the emby had dropped from a 9 cell to a 7 cell, but the embryologist said that this is still ok for a viable pregnancy at a 23% loss- they transfer down to 50%. Have been feeling quite crampy but that may be because it took them a while to get everything in its place- so now fingers crossed- BT on sunday 25th- so I will find out in the middle of labour weekend. If this doesnt work then its back to the start. Didnt realise that Fert Assc calles you if it thaws- my heart dropped when I saw their call- but it was good news!<br /><br />Hope you are all ok <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 October 2009 at 6:51pm<br /><br />Scaredycat - sometimes things are meant to be aren't they? It's great that you got an earlier appt rather than January!! <br /><br />BTW I know that things don't happen over the Xmas period with Repromed, so any cycle starting Nov may be pushing to get things through - that's scary! I'd hate to have to wait till next year to get things going as it seems like so far away ..... <br /><br />Anyway, great that you can see the specialist and hopefully get that embie transferred next cycle so you can be pg before xmas <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />My follicles are growing - still slowly, but hey they're growing! Scan again Saturday.<br /><br />Hope things went well today Hope1 and that you're resting up.<br /><br />Good luck with the specialist too mtjt<br /><br />KIT all <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 October 2009 at 6:20pm<br /><br />Thanks you guys for your kind thoughts, haven't had the best of days today, but thats to be expected.<br /><br />I did get some good news though, I really wanted to see one of the Dr's at FA regarding the recurrent miscarriage thing, and when I rang this morning I was told they were booked out until next January.  But as she was telling me this, she noticed we live in the BOP and they have just had a cancellation for an appointment over here for this Friday, must have been my lucky day today instead of yesterday.<br /><br />So fingers crossed we can get everything all sorted out before our next transfer.<br /><br />Good luck for tomorrow Hope1, will be thinking of you.  I hope that wee embie behaves and thaws really well.<br /><br />Also fingers crossed for you Tischler, hope your follicles are growing too.<br /><br />Hey mtjt, hope everything ok with you, and you've got a nice long list of questions to ask the Dr tomorrow.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 October 2009 at 4:29pm<br /><br />Owww Hope1 - good luck for tomorrow!!<br /><br />I'm hoping for some luck for growing little follicles tomorrow too <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 October 2009 at 7:59am<br /><br />Scardy cat- am so sorry. Am glad that you can start on the next emby so soon though. My thoughts are with you.<br /><br />I have transfer tomorrow! Am so nervous that it wont thaw!<br /><br />Will keep you all posted- positive vibes!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2009 at 5:08pm<br /><br />Thanks mtjt!<br /><br />So sorry scaredycat - this journey really sux. What can we say <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> go and do some nice things for yourself, and here's hoping that AF arrives soon so that your last emby is your lucky one!<br /><br />I've just got a 'prenatal' multi-vit pill which I'm about to start taking. Shezzey posted a link under the fertility food??? thread which had a massive list of vits and minerals, so I've decided the easiest way to get most of them is in a pill! So that's my plan, along with my fertility stones, prayers, good luck, & friends doing 'fertility dances' <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2009 at 5:00pm<br /><br />Hello again gals...<br /><br />Countrygirl - heavy sedation? sounds good to me!! i have not been offered that i dont think?? just mild sedation or general anesthetic?? maybe my sedation wasnt enough I did feel a bit woosey when they injected me whilst lying down but i did feel the pain!! ..The whole thought of EC again freaks me out!! <br /><br />Tischler - am praying for you!!! I wonder what you can do to make them grow faster??? <br /><br />Scardy cat - im sooooo sorry for you. I really thought with your symptoms that it would be BFP, but not this time.  Its so annoying that sometimes theirs just no answers to why...<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0">  I would definitely see the doctor on this.. its just not fair!!!<br /><br />TO ALL OF US - Lets NOT give up on our dreams of having our own families. I have been doing alot of soul searching lately and also praying for us all.. Lets stick together and get the BFP's we all deserve!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2009 at 4:44pm<br /><br />Well its bad news from me today too, BFN<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />AF seems to have gone awol too, oh well, know doubt will rear its ugly red head soon enough.<br /><br />The good news is I can go straight onto my last embie as soon as AF does show.<br /><br />Tischler sounds like you have been having a fun time too, not!  I hope it gets better and your wee follicles get busy and starting growing. <br /><br />Good luck to everyone else.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2009 at 3:59pm<br /><br />Soooo scaredycat .................... ?????<br /><br />Scan for me today. Did I say 'pear-shaped' out loud?? Things didn't go as expected <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Of the 3 follicles on Friday, 1 was found to be a cyst, taking me down to 2 of which neither had grown.<br /><br />After the nurse, registrar and consultant checking things out while undergoing the scan (!) they eventually determined there were 3 other smaller follicles as well as the 2 which hadn't grown, and 2 absolutely tiny ones on the other ovary.<br /><br />So, since I'm a known 'slow developer' we are continuing, and I'm now anticipating frequent BT's and scans (like last time) every couple of days in the hope to see follicle growth!<br /><br />Fx'd please! I so need all things to go my way as if we abandon this cycle we are out of $.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21906">Country girl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2009 at 3:16pm<br /><br />Hey Mtjt,<br /><br />I am so sorry to hear of your negative result, but take my hat off to your determination and courage!<br />I had heavy sedation this time round for my egg collection and found the whole process to be very relaxed and I suffered from no side effects, or discomfort afterwards! Maybe this could be of benefit to you??<br />FAH will be able to tell you all about it. Good luck!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2009 at 8:54am<br /><br />Thanks to everyone with your kind words...<br />Yep as hard as it is I am NOT  going to give up on our dream of our own family<br />Am hoping to get to see DR asap to go over this cycle and hope to move forward to a 3rd go (eeeek very daunting!!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0"> )<br />This whole process puts strain on your relationship also as it simply consumes you as you literally think about it every minute of the day - particularly when you have to inject yourself certain time each day!!<br />Im quite petrified of another 3rd round - the thought of going thru the Egg collection (ouch!!!!!) and then the ET and the dreaded 2ww..But what choice do we have... cant give up thats for sure...<br />Thanks again to you all..and good luck!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by mtjt</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 12 October 2009 at 8:25am<br /><br />Mtjt- I'm so sorry- I thought About you all weekend as couldnt get to computer. So just found out now. Take care of yourself- like scardy cat said, maybe a facial or a massage? I hate that we all go through this- I sat in path lab during the weekend and couldnt believe how many of us there are!!<br /><br />Love to you all <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21427">tulips</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 October 2009 at 3:11pm<br /><br />Mtjt<br />Don't blame yourself. Unfortunately there are no guarantees with this IVF process. I think you need a lot of luck. Take good care of yourselves.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23277">Moogle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 October 2009 at 11:07am<br /><br />mtjt - my heart goes out to you... I hope you and DH are doing something nice and looking after each other...it is not an easy time.  Look after yourself.<br /><br />Tischler  SC and Hope1 - good luck! <br /><br />You guys are all in my thoughts and prayers.<br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Moogle</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 October 2009 at 8:09pm<br /><br />Hello again<br />Cant believe it, feels sureal and im in a dream or something - i had a hunch i was going to get bad news today as AF arrived this morning<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <br />I am going over and over again in my head - could i have done anything more? but i know both DH and i did everything right, taking vits, no alcahol and only decafe etc...<br />The hard thing is not knowing. For some strange reason we just dont get good embies...<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0">  <br />I have now completed round 2 of ivf and its sooo daunting and terrifying to even contemplate another round. My age concerns me as well as times marching and have just turned 38.  Am feeling rather ripped off that it hasnt worked for us... why why why!!!!!!!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <br />I hope we get to see Dr ASAP as i just want  to get some answers...<br /><br />Tischler - good luck with your upcoming EC! hope your 3 follicles give you good embies and results in BFP for you!!!!! fingers crossed. How many goes of ivf have you had now? <br /><br />Scardycat - thinking of you too!! especially Monday for your BT..<br /><br />I do hope and pray that you Scardycat and Tischler get BFP!!! <br /><br />Take care <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by mtjt</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 October 2009 at 5:59pm<br /><br />Hi mtjt, just wanted to say how sorry I am again, my heart breaks for you, I can't believe how unbelievably unfair this journey is sometimes!!  Take care of yourself and DH, I hope you have a nice bottle of wine in the fridge.  Feel free to phone or text me if you want to talk about it.<br /><br />Hey tischler, everything is sounding really good for you, hope your next scan is just as good.  My BT is Monday!!  Eeek!! <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by ScaredyCat</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 October 2009 at 5:14pm<br /><br />Hi mtjt, I'm soooooo sorry. It's absolutely gutting news to hear that, and unfortunately many of us have been there repeatedly <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> Have a good talk to the specialist - I so hope you have another shot at it.<br /><br />Just an update from me. I had my scan this morning and I only have 3 follicles developing, however they are of good size (and 3 is the minimum they require to go through to collection). So another BT and scan on Monday and probably collection Wednesday, unless things go pear shaped.<br /><br />Scaredycat - when's your BT?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 October 2009 at 4:51pm<br /><br />Hi everyone<br />Bad news<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> bfn......<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <br />very sad...<br />Hoping to see Doctor about this and i spose try again, very daunting...<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by mtjt</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 October 2009 at 10:46am<br /><br />Had BT wedensday and today- prob sat and sun too, ovulation should be sunday or Monday so its all go next week!! Hopefully wee emby thaws.<br /><br />Goodluck! Have fingers, toes, legs and eyes crossed for you all- am getting some pretty funny looks!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 October 2009 at 8:46am<br /><br />Am thinking of you today mtjt, fingers crossed and hoping for a positive outcome later today!<br /><br />Thanks Hope1, nerves are really starting to kick in, don't seem to have any symptons at all so not sure if that good or bad thing, only time will tell I guess. How are you going?  When's your first BT?<br /><br />Hey Tischler, sounds like things are moving quickly for you, whens your scan?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 October 2009 at 8:14am<br /><br />Good luck for today mtjt and good luck for monday scardy cat!! Thinking of you!<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Hope1</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2009 at 7:53pm<br /><br />I really can't believe I'd have them already. Last cycle ended up so long that I'm expecting minimal there and quite a lot of jabs to go, but happy to be pleasantly surprised!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21427">tulips</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2009 at 5:44pm<br /><br />Tischler<br />I noticed with the Antagonist cycle that symptoms came on stronger and quicker than the normal cycle. Hopefully you have lots of good follicles there.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by tulips</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2009 at 3:42pm<br /><br />I agree mtjt - hang in there, thinking of you!<br /><br />Just a question - I have my scan and BT tomorrow (will be after 6 gonal and 1 cetrotide jabs) ..... I can't remember last time but at the moment I feel really 'full' down near my ovaries - did anyone else get this?? Are they growing??<br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21427">tulips</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2009 at 11:25am<br /><br />Mtjt<br />Don't give up hope just yet. All the best for tomorrow!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2009 at 9:49am<br /><br />Hi mtjt- has  a friend who spotted right up to week 12, stay positive- and keep hoping- you never know!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2009 at 8:27am<br /><br />hello again<br />Its 13dpo for me today and the last few days i have been taking temps in morn (gives me an idea if AF on its way as temps will go down just prior) today i am 36.9 (pretty high) however am just starting a bit of light brown spottng - sorry TMI... but i just wondered if anyone else had this?<br />tomorrow is BT day and not feeling tooooo positive as now it could be AF trying to happen??<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"><br />What will be will be i suppose..]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 October 2009 at 8:21pm<br /><br />BTW, had to join in and get a ticker, but disappointed there wasn't one I could find easily that would tick down BT, scan, EC, tx etc!! <br /><br />Suppose I could've done a cycle ticker, but I'm thinking positive and the most positive thing at the moment has been getting married to my DH, so it makes me smile to see the ticker showing how long we have been happily married.<br /><br />Totally off topic I know - sorry guys! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 October 2009 at 8:17pm<br /><br />mtjt - it's getting  closer!! <br /><br />I would not be worried at all about no symptoms, some people have no symptoms until 6+ weeks into pregnancy. No news is good news and all that!<br /><br />I'm hoping you'll be crying for joy, but either way we are all here for you. It's a great sign that AF hasn't arrived yet!!!<br /><br />Best wishes <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22860">Hope1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 October 2009 at 2:45pm<br /><br />Hi all- check out this website www.advancedfertility.com it shows great pictures and info on embryos etc at day 3 and day 5, talkes about cells and fragmentation. Very cool! But american so keep that in mind- things will be a bit different]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21201">ScaredyCat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 October 2009 at 12:00pm<br /><br />Hang in there mtjt, I know how you feeling, only time will tell (which doesn't help, I know!!).<br /><br />You will be crying for joy!!!  And then you will be sending lots of good vibes my way!!  Keep positive!!<br />Ring/text/PM me if you need to.<br /><br />How's everyone else doing?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21493">mtjt</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 October 2009 at 9:50am<br /><br />hi everyone<br />update for you all.. my BT is only in 2 more days! im anxious, nervous and scared all at once.<br />I dont feel anything at all?????????? no sore boobs, no real cramps or anything the last 2 or so days now.. whats going on???<br />To be honest im quite petrified of the results on friday arvo... will i be crying for joy<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0">  or crying for disappointment<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <br />Did anyone else who had a BFP had no real symptoms just prior? i dont even feel a cramp right now??<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22625">tischler</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 22841<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 October 2009 at 4:05pm<br /><br />Hi Hope1, I've just started on Gonal-F 300 (Saturday night). I'm on an antagonist cycle, so introduce Cetrotide on Thursday night as well. <br /><br />I have a BT and scan on Friday, apprehensive about that though as last time round my follicles were soooo slow at developing 3 times they were about to cancel it!<br /><br />But hopefully, all going well, maybe by the end of next week I might be getting near collection time!]]>
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