https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 14 Apr 2026 21:42:42 +0000 Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:02:23 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3044 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59305&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59305 Author: Maya
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 8:02pm

Go and study Janine! BTW - love the pic of Paris on your ticker ]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:02:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59305&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59305 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59282&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59282 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 5:30pm

lol the good thing (or possibly not) is that they are both very different - Paris is bigger boned - taking after me in body shape i think... and Ayja takes after her daddy - so while i don't think Paris will be large, i definately think she will be bigger in stature - i think Ayja will either love or hate being the skinny minnie - if she is only a little svelt then it will be ok, if she inherits mikes condition thenm shemight hate it (he got called "anna" or "bones" at school cos he does look a bit anorexic most of the time and there's no medical reason why)

ok, so, seriously - i am not coming on here again tonight, really i am not, i am studying i am i am i am i am i am

Just blame these preggies for going into labour - all their fault!]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:30:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59282&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59282 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59255&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59255 Author: Roksana
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 4:47pm

Lol Janine...I know its not funny for you now...but I had to laugh....just imagine what they will do to each other when they are teenagers and borrow (with out asking) each others cloths???!!!

]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:47:11 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59255&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59255 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59240&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59240 Author: daikini
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 4:31pm

Ahhh, the things I have to look forward to!

Edited by becca.l]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:31:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59240&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59240 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59238&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59238 Author: AlyAyde
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 4:30pm

rofl, that had me in hysterics janine. It was like you were talking about my two (except Jayde has teeth and leaves very bad marks). Dont ya love it when they actually are nice to each other though. Sometimes one or the other of mine will go and cuddle and kiss the other.]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:30:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59238&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59238 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59230&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59230 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 4:13pm

Ayja is figuring out the whole cause and effect thing a bit more... she is a crack up cos she now has begun hiding and popping out and doing cheesy grins. she also loves getting praised.. she had been working hard to get shapes out of a fabric shape sorter earlier int he day, but i thought no, not gonna go do it for her. i saw her not too long after with 2 in her hands and i told her well done for getting them out, she looks at them and at me and does this little giggle to herself as if to say "i'm so clever aren't i?"

She is becomming more - "spirited" every day. we went shopping the other night just me and the 2 kids OH MY GOD NEVER AGAIN!!

they were in the same trolley side by side - Paris started bear-hugging ayja - ayja didn't like it so got grumpy and tried to push paris away, i told paris off so she packed a grump, then ayja started reaching up and pulling paris's hair (when she was little in the baby seat next to her it used to be the hood on paris's jacket that she'd go for)anyway chaos ensued, paris grouched, ayja kept pulling her hair - even after i tucked it down the back of paris's jacket - she still started reaching up and pulling paris's hairties out - paris grabs her round the neck and back in another bear hug, but really tight (mums of 2 will know this move - looks like they are hugging but really they are trying to squish/smother) so again i pry them apart and them ayja decide that even though she has no teeth she will lunge and bite paris on the arm.

so embarrasing - when mike came back from dropping off what he had to do - i'm sure he expected to find me half finished.. but nope - only at the milk section of pak,n,save (so about 2 minutes walk if i were childless)

Ayja has also started giving as good as she gets - her new thing is if paris annoys her she will get up on knees as if she's kneeling and just body slam at paris, pulling her hair biting her face and usually reuslting in pushing her over onto the ground where she continues to climb on her and scrag her.

of course all of this involves much screaming and squawking from both of them. I used to pry them apart (stil do in the supermarket) but at home for the most part i monitor it cos usually withing 2 seconds they have resolved it, usually paris realises and remembers that ayja isn't a pushover anymore and decides maybe she better give the toy back or share - crisis averted.

If they are like this now i hate to think of what is to come.]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:13:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59230&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59230 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59227&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59227 Author: Roksana
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 4:06pm

LOL...... ]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:06:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59227&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59227 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59221&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59221 Author: lizzle
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 3:56pm

Jake makes animal sounds a lot. Just lately he's been barking when he sees a rabbit though which is a little weird. I'm sure he says "bugger", and he has a "joke"
I pointed to a picture of an apple and said "apple"
Jake: "apple"
Me "banana"
Jake "nana"
I point to apple
Jake "apple"
I point to banana
Jake looks at me, and smiles
"apple", then cracks up laughing to himself.]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:56:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59221&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59221 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59186&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59186 Author: Roksana
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 2:35pm

He he ha ha ....soooo cute....Awwww ]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:35:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59186&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59186 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59179&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59179 Author: daikini
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 2:23pm

Josiah's just started to speak more too, Janine. He was saying a few words before, but in the last week or so it seems that he's figured out which words/sounds relate to what things!

He followed my inlaws cat around their lounge the other day saying "mauw, daddy, mauw!"]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:23:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59179&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59179 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59176&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59176 Author: Roksana
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 2:19pm

Awwww so cute. I cant wait till Zaara starts to speak. But at the moment I am loving the new things she does every other day......Oh I love my little brat!!!!

I can just imagine Ayja Saying that ...he he he... ]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:19:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59176&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59176 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59172&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59172 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 2:11pm

ooh that's so cute and icky all at the same time isn't it Roksana!

Ayja has just learnt to pucker her mouth and make the kissy noise - and she now goes round holding up dollies and making the kissy noise like she wants you to kiss them. or when she's greasing up to try and get a bite of whatever you are eating (she's an awful scrounge) she will climb up and give you kisses.. while trying to take the food from your hand.

Over the last few days we have noticed that she is putting more words together too - which is about time cos until now she hasn't said much at all, but last night decided she could say duckies, went and got all her books with ducks in them and opened them to the right pages and points to them going "duckiessss daddy! duckies!!" and we put up new photos of the girls in our lounge yesterday (until then walls had been bare) and she kept pointing going "wasss this?" - i guess it's cos we had kept pointing to them all day showing her going "what's this? ooh they're photos of paris/ayja!!" kinda neat.

Edited by mum2paris]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:11:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59172&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59172 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59033&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59033 Author: Roksana
Subject: 3044
Posted: 17 July 2006 at 10:14am

Ok Zaara had a bad weekend because I think her teeth are coming out (here is hoping)...but she did the cutest thing.....I asked her can you give mama a kiss? so she shook her head in a no...and then laughed ...I asked her to give me a kiss again...and she opened her mouth and landed one on me...I was covered in drool...but I thought that was sooo cute!!! ]]> Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:14:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=59033&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#59033 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58793&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58793 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 3044
Posted: 15 July 2006 at 10:48pm

Paris mostly has good days but gets very annoyed if anything gets out of routine, like if she wants something or wants help and i say "i'll get this/do this for you when i have done..." and mike goes to help her cos he's free to do it, she goes bonkers "NO!!! MUMMY IS GOING TO DO IT!!!" we have to keep reminding her that the appropriate response when someone helps you is to say "thank-you!!"

And the not getting dressed.. well paris loves to take her jearsey off all the time - as soon as she gets to daycare its off with the shoes and jearsey - even in winter.. which i woudl say is the reason she gets sick - cos she then forgets to rug up when going outside. so she packs it when i tell her to put her jearsey on. We also have a huge fight if we try and help her put on her undies/pants/socks.. cos she can do those herself pretty much all the time.. and if we try and help boy do we get in trouble!!

Ayja rolls around all the time and we struggle to keep her occupied long enough to get her dressed. I used to say to mike that i think i liked Paris more cos she never learnt to roll - she was a nice baby to dress!

Edited by mum2paris]]> Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:48:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58793&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58793 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58766&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58766 Author: Maya
Subject: 3044
Posted: 15 July 2006 at 9:44pm

I took Maya to preschool in her PJ's once coz she refused to get dressed. I wanted the teachers to make a real big deal of how silly it was, but they just kind of laughed at her so she didn't really get the message.

We had a great day today tho. We got up late and she helped me make a quiche for lunch, then her little friend came round and they played together all day without even one fight, and they stayed for tea, then Maya had her bath, Willie and I helped her do some puzzles and she went to bed iwthout even a peep. I wish she could be this good every day!]]> Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:44:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58766&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58766 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58741&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58741 Author: my2angels
Subject: 3044
Posted: 15 July 2006 at 7:34pm

Kobe hates getting dressed to, I used to end up running around the house after him trying to get some clothes on or he would be in his pj top all if I didnt have the energy but this week I have decided he has to come to me and will be firm about it, so far so good I count to 5 and he has to be in front of me, not sure what Im going to do if he doesnt come to me though, better get a time out corner sorted.
He has figured out how he can open his door and wont go to bed at night and last night for the first time ever he startd getting up in the night, 2am till about 3.30am he got up 7 times and would race out to the lounge to play! I could have just about screamed at him, bad enough I have to get up to a new baby let alone a toddler who knows better grrrr!]]> Sat, 15 Jul 2006 19:34:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58741&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58741 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58699&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58699 Author: Rachael21
Subject: 3044
Posted: 15 July 2006 at 3:30pm

I'm dreading Jack being able to move around I have no idea how I will get anything done]]> Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:30:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58699&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58699 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58692&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58692 Author: nikkitheknitter
Subject: 3044
Posted: 15 July 2006 at 3:11pm

Hannah haaaaaaaates getting dressed at the moment. I can work with the screaming, but running away makes things difficult!]]> Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:11:57 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58692&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58692 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58690&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58690 Author: Rachael21
Subject: 3044
Posted: 15 July 2006 at 3:00pm

Aww What a sweetie Zaara is.

Jack screams after his bath too when I'm trying to dress him. I have given up trying to stop the crying and put all my energy into doing it as fast as i can so i can cuddle him after]]> Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:00:19 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=58690&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#58690 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57593&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57593 Author: Roksana
Subject: 3044
Posted: 10 July 2006 at 10:00am

wow.....so much fun to look forward too.......

Janine...I do that all the time, because most days she is a handful after I give her a bath and try to put cloths back on her...I always say "Zaara...you know that we take a bath and put cream on and put cloths on.....I will pick you up when we are finished" she looks at me with a I dont care look and mostly is ok......but some days.....ooooohhhhhh I could smack her.

Last night after her bath...she was such a good girl!!!!

I was sooo proud!! she even put her hand around me when I said...give mama a huggie huggie!!!! ]]> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:00:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57593&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57593 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57296&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57296 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 9:39pm

lol yep we get that with paris. she now tends to get the "mummy is busy talking on the phone, once i have finished talking to ... then we can go and do ...., can you find something to do until i have finished" mostly works but means i usually end up playing dolls or something for a fair time afterwards... all about negotiation...

lol, don't get me wrong though - these things work a fair amount of the time... but not always, and less and less when i am tired and stressed... or when Paris had figured out that she really isn't in control... lol.... just ask Becs - after our last get together at her place with Aimmee and Andie and uuum forgot real name... kebakat.... we went to leave and paris didi her best impression of a brat, and nothing worked. she got put in the car with no shoes on and no jearsey on (which is what we had been fighting to get her to put on) she embarassed me so much that she really thought she had won.... she didn't think much of time out when we got home... and her jearsey got put straight on her as soon as she was out of the car!]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:39:59 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57296&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57296 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57294&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57294 Author: meow
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 9:32pm

It works until they get to 2.. or thereabouts.. "Ella, mummy will just (insert task here) and then you can have.. " Ella - no no no NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Fun.

Ella's latest trick is as soon as the phone rings to come up to me and hassle me about something I've already said no to. In the hope I'll give in..]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:32:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57294&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57294 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57291&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57291 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 8:59pm

Roksana - It is frustrating! they get to being like that at this age - lol they realise they have you round their little fingers

Well not really, they just learn cause and effect, .. if i don't want to be put down i will cry, and ooooh hey, mummy picked me straight back up, whoa, hey that's a good thing to know, i might keep doing that!

lol, you know, like when they drop something off the highchair, you pick it up and they do it again, and hey you pick it up again.. suddenly they realise that if they keep dropping it, you're gonna keep picking it up. it's putting 2 and 2 together, but not always in the good ways.

Just keep with routine, reassure her all the while and she will soon learn that no matter what this is how things happen, if you can think of no good reason for her screaming, and you really need to get her changed etc whatever, then keep going, and tell her that once you are done, you will cuddle her. and keep with that, once you have changed her, cuddle her and say "see, mummy said she would cuddle you once she was finished"... sounds like a load of bull but once you get into the routine of it, it's pretty good, most of the time.

Ayja does the same alot, but most of the time this works... mostly. lol]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 20:59:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57291&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57291 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57262&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57262 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 4:43pm

oh emma - sounds like you are having some fun... just got back from holiday yesterday but if i had been home i would have called and let you moan to me... ]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 16:43:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57262&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57262 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57237&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57237 Author: Maya
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 3:38pm

Willie calls Maya "Miss Witchy" - which is kind of appropriate. He's been calling her that since before she actually became a witch tho!]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:38:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57237&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57237 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57207&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57207 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 2:56pm

lol Emma - doesn't help that mike calls her princess, and most of her clothes just reinforce that - alot of tops have princess plastered all over them - she even has socks that say it and a headband. she also has a top that says "her royal highness"]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:56:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57207&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57207 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57174&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57174 Author: nikkitheknitter
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 2:02pm

haha Emma - well maybe if I start grooming her for it now she'll be much more receptive to me fobbing her off ]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:02:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57174&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57174 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57161&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57161 Author: Maya
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 1:12pm

Can you imagine the hormones in my house when I have 3 teenage girls on the loose? I think I should give up now...

Janine - "Princess" is the perfect word for it!

Nikki - Once they get to 3 they graduate from saying "no" to everything, to saying "why" instead. And it is soooooo frustrating coz "because I'm the Mum and I said so" just doesn't cut it...]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:12:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57161&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57161 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57149&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57149 Author: james
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 12:20pm

no way i had a moment like that last night and i was very close i have smacked james and still feel like the worst mum in the world i think its more fastrion then anything i could,ntbelive i had hit him (not hard thou)ohh now i feel like crap ]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 12:20:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57149&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57149 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57110&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57110 Author: Roksana
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 10:30am

ok my turn.....

Zaara is only 8 months old but has her moments where I do wanna smack her!! I have a cold and dont feel so good and may be my patience is running a bit low!!

Any way last night I got back from work and Zaara was very happy to see me...we played, I feed her and all was well. Se was sitting down on her mat...playing and watching the disney channel while cooked dinner.....after I was finished I told hubby that I am going to go and give Zaara a body wipe (since it is cold I give her a bath every 2nd day and wipe the days I dont).....when I picked her up I realised that she had done a poo and so I thought...good timing!!!

Any way I go and put her down on our bed so that I can get the water ready along with her cloths...as soon as I put her down she screams....Like some one was about to kill her....Atish came running and we were both shocked!! I pick her up and she is fine!!

So now Atish gets the water ready and her cloths...I put her down on the changing table to clean up her poo...and she screams.....I was like too bad I have to clean you.....so she cried and cried and cried...Atish tried making faces at her and talk to her (which usually works) but nah...she just cried and cried....finally I had enough and I picked her up ..her butt hanging bare....but she was just fine!!   

After a while finally she let me give her wipe and put on some nappy and cloths....I tell you I could have smacked her but I doubt that she would understand what for so .....I didnt but oooohhhhhh if she keeps this up till she is a teenager...I dont know if I will be able to hold my self back!!!!......am I a bad mother for thinking like that??

Edited by Roksana]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 10:30:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57110&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57110 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57096&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57096 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 3044
Posted: 07 July 2006 at 10:03am

I keep looking at Ayja hoping that she won't get to the grumpy icky toddler stage - she is just getting past the baby stage and into the wanting to help stage. i at least hope paris is back to being nice by the time Ayja gets there.. otherwise all hell will break loose. catfights anyone?,

Edited by mum2paris]]> Fri, 07 Jul 2006 10:03:59 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57096&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57096 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57003&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57003 Author: nikkitheknitter
Subject: 3044
Posted: 06 July 2006 at 2:31pm

Feck. I've written this post 3 times and it keeps error-ing me!!!!

Anywayyyy...
Children are evil. Especially mine. She decided to go all "2-ish" on me in the last week or so. All I hear is "NO!!!" in the screechiest voice ever. It's driving me nuuuutttttttsssss. She throws tanties as soon as she doesn't get what she wants and has started charging at me with her arm raised ready to hit me as well! Oh, and of course, power play has meant that she won't sit on the toilet AT ALL! Arghhhhhhhh.

Maybe it'll mean that she isn't so bad at 3?!?! Hrmmm... yeah right.]]> Thu, 06 Jul 2006 14:31:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=57003&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#57003 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56998&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56998 Author: meow
Subject: 3044
Posted: 06 July 2006 at 2:23pm

Emma, we are starting the terrible twos here so I know where you're coming from! And I have heard that 3 is worse than 2 so if I'm finding it hard now then I might have to run lol..

Nikki, why is it always like that? You have a really nice time with them then they do something naughty afterwards ]]> Thu, 06 Jul 2006 14:23:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56998&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56998 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56995&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56995 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 3044
Posted: 06 July 2006 at 2:22pm

Ha Emma is must be cos we had an ok time with Pari sin the 2's as well - until now - 1 month out from her birthday and she's going all princess on us.]]> Thu, 06 Jul 2006 14:22:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56995&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56995 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56967&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56967 Author: Maya
Subject: 3044
Posted: 06 July 2006 at 1:44pm

Hehe Aimee - run now!!!

Janine - nice to know I'm not the only one with the child from hell atm. Maybe this is my punishment for having an easy time of the terrible twos!

Nikki - don't take my advice, then Maya and Hannah would both be scarred for life lol! Seriously tho, I do sometimes have a shower with her (or a bath when we are at Mum and Dad's) and she loves it, but it means Willie has to get her dressed and he won't go near her when she's feral. Grrrrr, he only likes "nice Maya". "Feral Maya" is my problem.

We're having a better day today. I just took her out for lunch and she is actually behaving herself quite well. ]]> Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:44:19 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56967&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56967 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56929&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56929 Author: nikkitheknitter
Subject: 3044
Posted: 06 July 2006 at 10:58am

Emma, you are a brilliant mum! I take most of my advice from you, so please don't do that to me! hehe

I'd have completely lost the plot in your position, so I think you did very well! And at least now you can work on strategies to deal with it next time. (P.S. Please let us know what works as I have a feeling this kind of thing won't be that far away with little miss Hannahby)

Have you tried having a shower with Maya? (Altho with the belly too might be a bit difficult!) I had a shower with Hannah the other day and it was the nicest time I have spent with her in aaaages. She gave me lots of hugs and kisses and snuggles. Then I had to battle her to put on her pyjamas which completely destroyed the bonding experience... oh well.]]> Thu, 06 Jul 2006 10:58:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56929&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56929 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56841&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56841 Author: aimeejoy
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 9:47pm

Ok Emma and Janine you have got me worried about the coming years now...!!

Emma, you are doing such a fab job and you are allowed to be grumpy! You won't be doing her any harm. Hope tonight went better... ]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:47:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56841&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56841 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56814&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56814 Author: crazy_crazy
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 6:16pm

oh emma you are a great mum just try to remeber its just a phase and this to will pass big hugs girl u and maya will be fine]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:16:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56814&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56814 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56792&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56792 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 4:57pm

WE tried Paris in the shower a few months ago and she had the HUGEST hissy fit. but then she has all of a sudden gone from being the girl who loved baths to the kids who goes "why do i need a bath, i don't want a bath, it's not bath night tonight"

she also is back at the "i will just yell and scream and cry instead of using my words" stage too Emma, so it must be a nasty girl thing that happens at this age.

We used to reassure her and blah blah, but we get to the point where it's like "STOP crying!" - i mean instead of saying to us, no i don't want to wear that jearsey, she will just cry as soon as we get it to put on her.. come on..

i try to reason with her, i try to console her, i try tough love and no response unless she asks nicely, and hey, it's really up to her what works at what time cos i have realised 3 yr old girls think they are in control no matter how hard we try to make it known that they are NOT! WE have reverted in the last few days back to our original namby pamby ways of taking time and well, not babying her but ensuring she is supported so that she has confidence to do thing herself and encouraging happy voices not grumpy ones and all that... and it seems to be working but when it's stressful at our house all hell breaks loose.

Hang in there, little girls can be nasty at this age... and i heard that subconsciously they like to try and get mum and dad to fight too as they become closer to their daddy and want more of his attention and realise that mummy gets daddys attention too.. (in a round about way through all these theories etc)

ok enuf.

hang in there. you luv her, she luvs you and think of it as training for the teenage years. ]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 16:57:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56792&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56792 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56766&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56766 Author: Maya
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 3:19pm

Thanks ]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:19:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56766&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56766 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56761&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56761 Author: Roksana
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 3:14pm

oh no Emma.....I dont know what else to say??? but hope today is better for both of you!!]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:14:15 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56761&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56761 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56760&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56760 Author: Maya
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 3:13pm

Thanks Liz! Jake's a pretty clever boy then - if he puts himself in time out, you can't use it as a punishment lol.

Can't wait till we get to the new house and we have a bath! Hopefully she will be more keen on that idea!]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:13:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56760&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56760 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56752&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56752 Author: lizzle
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:57pm

Oh Emma! if it makes you feel any better, when I yell at jake, he puts himself in time out and then smacks himself in the head. He does it in shops which screams "I"M ABUSED BY MY PARENTS".
By anyway, hope Maya will have a nice shower tonight!]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:57:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56752&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56752 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56749&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56749 Author: Maya
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:54pm

LOL Roksana I can't even get relaxing right! I booked a massage the other day and it was awesome, I felt sooooo relaxed afterwards. Until I looked at the time and realised it had gone overtime and I was late to pick up Maya, and then when I picked her up she had a sore neck so I had to take her to the docs, and she spent the rest of the day being grumpy, which pretty much killed my post-massage buzz!

Man, I am whingy today!]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:54:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56749&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56749 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56746&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56746 Author: Roksana
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:48pm

Oh Emma....dont feel like that! I am sure Maya loves you too bits and knows that you love her too. We all had mums who screamed from time to time (partly our fault) and we turned out ok (he he ha ha). And I am sure our kids will be fine too....

May be get Willie to take her out for the day while you relax. I think all you need is a one good relaxing day. May be go to a spa or some thing...... ]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:48:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56746&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56746 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56741&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56741 Author: Maya
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:31pm

Thanks She sure was having one of those days...

I guess it was a reminder of how much our mothers actually do for us that I was moaning at Mum about not having any 'me' time atm and she was just listening and probably wishing I would get off the phone so she could have her 'me' time!

I do worry that I am permanently damaging Maya tho, some days it feels like I am just yelling from the time I wake up till the time she goes to bed. It's mostly coz I'm tired and still feeling sicky, but that's not her fault, and she's not old enough to understand why her Mummy is so grumpy. I almost can't wait for the twins to get here so I can stop feeling so grumpy and yucky all the time and get back to being a better Mum.]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:31:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56741&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56741 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56735&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56735 Author: Roksana
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:20pm

Oh Emma......I think you are a great mum and you will continue to be so after the twins arrive.

I think I read it here that 3 year olds can be a handful and Maya was having one of those days.

]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:20:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56735&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56735 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56734&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56734 Author: caraMel
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 2:20pm

Oh Emma, what a horrible night!
I think any one of us parents of toddlers can relate with times like that with our kids. Times when they've lost it and we've tried everything to resolve it, to no avail and wound up losing it a bit ourselves.
My Mum has had me on the phone so many times, doubting my abilities as a mum, and she has always got a story to match whatever trouble has set me off! I think she's the best Mum ever, so those hiccups can't have scarred me too deeply
Mum always says to me, the great thing about little kids, is they have very short memories. Once its over, its over and you can start again with a little more experience under your belt.
You are so cut out to be a Mum. Everything I've read of yours on here tells me how much you love Maya and those little Gremlins of yours, and how much you enjoy being a Mum/Mum to be. Feeling upset about it just goes to show how seriously you take your job.
((hugs))]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:20:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56734&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56734 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56727&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56727 Author: Maya
Subject: 3044
Posted: 05 July 2006 at 1:52pm

Hmmm, I think I feel my next column coming on... but anyways...

Last night the child screamed for 2 hours non stop because she didn't want to have a shower. i put her in time out in the bathroom like I do when she is misbehaving, and she climbed up and latched the door locked so that Willie had to break down the door to get her out. Which made her scream even louder. Eventually got her showered and into PJ's and put her to bed screaming. Shut the door. She got up and opened it and sat in the doorway screaming some more. Eventually got her calmed down after two hours and retreated to my room for some peace and quiet.

Not even. An hour later she woke up and started at it again, but she couldn't even tell me why she was screaming. She screamed so hard she made herself sick in her bed. Nothing I could do or say could stop her. So she ended up getting a smack. I mean, listening to a baby scream is one thing, but a three year old? She knows plenty of words to TELL me about her problem instead of incessant screaming. I think the smack (which was more like a tap on the leg) gave her a fright coz she settled soooo quickly after that.

And then I went back to my room and rang my Mum and cried for an hour about what a bad mother I am. How am I going to cope with three of them? I am sooo not cut out for being a Mum!

Feel a little better today, I had a talk with Maya about listening to Mummy when she is asked to do things (ie. have a shower) so will see what happens tonight when it's shower time...]]> Wed, 05 Jul 2006 13:52:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3044&PID=56727&title=tales-of-time-out-and-smacks#56727