https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 06 Apr 2026 04:48:36 +0000 Wed, 06 Oct 2010 07:32:40 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=35277 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1170288&title=interesting-rupture-article#1170288 Author: newme
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Posted: 06 October 2010 at 7:32am

toniellis wrote: There really does need to be a NZ study done because despite overseas studies proving that vbac & vba2cs are quite low risk, there is still a very high reluctance to allow it here in NZ... What guts me the most is for me personally, my 2 c-sections were really unnecessary Surgeons are far too quick to reach for the knife & any woman would agree to it if they are told it is necessary to save their baby & themselves.

I think this depends on the area you live in. In Christchurch VBAC's are very much promoted as the best option...however in saying that they do try to put unnecessary restrictions on the labouring mother (continuous fetal monitering, want you to dilate at 1cm per hour etc) and you really do need a strong midwife to stand up for you.

But I def agree that surgeons push for the 'unnecesarean'. My midwife said that it was often because they drs want the babies out before their shift finishes so that they can go home.]]> Wed, 06 Oct 2010 07:32:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1170288&title=interesting-rupture-article#1170288 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1170258&title=interesting-rupture-article#1170258 Author: toniellis
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Posted: 05 October 2010 at 11:08pm

There really does need to be a NZ study done because despite overseas studies proving that vbac & vba2cs are quite low risk, there is still a very high reluctance to allow it here in NZ...

What guts me the most is for me personally, my 2 c-sections were really unnecessary
Surgeons are far too quick to reach for the knife & any woman would agree to it if they are told it is necessary to save their baby & themselves.]]> Tue, 05 Oct 2010 23:08:15 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1170258&title=interesting-rupture-article#1170258 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1165184&title=interesting-rupture-article#1165184 Author: newme
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Posted: 29 September 2010 at 8:32pm

In the article I referenced above, towards the bottom of the article are some interesting statistics.

Here are a few:
Your risk of dying from a rupture of the uterus is: 0.0095% = 9.5 in 100 000 VBAC deliveries
Your risk of dying during any ceasarean section is: 0.0409% = 40.0 in 100 000 ceasarean sections
Your risk of dying during an elective repeat ceasarean section: 0.0184% = 18.4 in 100 000 elective csecs
The risk of your baby dying from a rupture of the uterus is: 0.095% = 9.5 in 10 000 VBAC deliveries
The risk of your baby dying during any VBAC delivery is : 0.2% = 2 in 1000 VBAC births
The risk of your baby dying during any type of delivery is: 0.12% = 1.2 in 1000 births

So c-sections def far more risky. ]]> Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:32:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1165184&title=interesting-rupture-article#1165184 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1164229&title=interesting-rupture-article#1164229 Author: neivaD
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Posted: 28 September 2010 at 6:01pm

Maternal and infant mortality are pretty high for c-sections too, as are the mortality and complication rates for subsequent pregnancies, babies and subsequent c-sections. It is major surgery afterall.]]> Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:01:15 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1164229&title=interesting-rupture-article#1164229 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1145112&title=interesting-rupture-article#1145112 Author: kazzam34
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Posted: 06 September 2010 at 11:54am

but what I have discovered through reading stuff about VBAC's is that C-sections themselves are risky. The doctors never seem to mention that. In the paper the other day it said that babies born by C section are more likely to have breathing problems and are twice as likely to die than a vaginally born baby!

I also read something else which basically said that in the very unlikely event of a rupture it doesn't necessarily mean death for mother or baby, so the risk of the worst possible consequences gets less and less.

Kazzam ]]> Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:54:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1145112&title=interesting-rupture-article#1145112 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1144729&title=interesting-rupture-article#1144729 Author: Shezamumof3
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Posted: 05 September 2010 at 9:11pm

I dont wanna read that lol, I refuse to freak myself out when the risk is SO low.

Ive had 2 C Sections, first one an emergecny and second an elective, and my babies are 14 months apart, so I got pregnant when DS was 5 months old. My pregnancy went perfectly fine and I had no pain in my scar, apart from the normal itching and slight pulling feeling every now and then as I got bigger. we are planning a 3rd baby soon as well, and will be another CS.]]> Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:11:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1144729&title=interesting-rupture-article#1144729 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1140493&title=interesting-rupture-article#1140493 Author: EmilysMum
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Posted: 31 August 2010 at 7:43pm

Man the risk of it occuring might be pretty low but look at the consequences!! Infant mortality within 10-37mins, and maternal mortality highly likely as well! I knew it was bad, I just didn't realise it was THAT bad. Scary stuff.
]]> Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:43:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1140493&title=interesting-rupture-article#1140493 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1129195&title=interesting-rupture-article#1129195 Author: Nutella
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Posted: 18 August 2010 at 10:17am

Oh interesting, so my risks would be reduced coz I was about 7cm dilated before having c sect. That is good to know. tho the risks are pretty slim really aren't they.

]]> Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:17:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1129195&title=interesting-rupture-article#1129195 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1128221&title=interesting-rupture-article#1128221 Author: luvmylittlies
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Posted: 17 August 2010 at 9:44am

TOL = Trial of Labour. So yep as hila1 said - it refers to just going into labour, not the end result.

Good articles guys. Thanks.]]> Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:44:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1128221&title=interesting-rupture-article#1128221 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1127368&title=interesting-rupture-article#1127368 Author: newme
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 11:56am

That is so funny - I had just read that article and was thinking I should post the link up

I think the no previous TOL just means that you have been in labour before, even if it ended up with a c-section.
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Here is another good one:

http://www.birthrites.org/uterinerupt.html
]]> Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:56:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1127368&title=interesting-rupture-article#1127368 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35277&PID=1127312&title=interesting-rupture-article#1127312 Author: Nutella
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Posted: 16 August 2010 at 11:00am

I was intrigued by the idea that an uterine rupture could happen during pregnancy not just labour so figured I would google and found this article which has various risk factors for ruptures...man the risk is so small really, even with me belonging to higher risk groups, ie age, no previous TOL (assuming this means have to actually give birth vaginally) and possibly having close pregnancies. I was kinda surprised! Even adding in the induction risk it seems like it is not that bad! And really interesting how one vaginal birth means the risk decreases.

Still don't think I would be brave enough to try for vbac-but that is coz of circumstances of DS birth not really coz of rupture risks. Though it does make me think that if they could guarantee that the same thing would not happen then maybe would try for vbac.

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