https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 04 Apr 2026 00:33:57 +0000 Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:03:00 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.04 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=7619 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159855&title=what-will-change#159855 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 7619
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 10:03am

Annnnnd, a chance for naughty kids to falsely report thier parents for smacking because they won't buy them a cellphone or whatever... I remember my brother at about 12 ringing the police on mum and saying she was beating him because he was grounded or something or other, and she had social welfare and the police round quick smart.. so embarassing.Luckily, those people are trianed in their jobs and can tell the difference between an abused child and a bloody naughty lying child!
DSS has already somewhat smarmily told me if he sees me "hitting" Jake, he will report me to the cops... (that kid has it in for me..)]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:03:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159855&title=what-will-change#159855 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159828&title=what-will-change#159828 Author: Two Blondinis
Subject: 7619
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 9:09am

good point!]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:09:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159828&title=what-will-change#159828 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159772&title=what-will-change#159772 Author: nuttymama
Subject: 7619
Posted: 13 June 2007 at 7:23am

My biggest worry is that the system is going to get clogged by false reporting and the kids that really need it are going to miss out on the support and help they really need because agencies are going to be to busy dealing with these other reports.

If they are not careful there is now a bigger chance for the real cases to fall into the cracks.]]> Wed, 13 Jun 2007 07:23:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159772&title=what-will-change#159772 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159622&title=what-will-change#159622 Author: busymum
Subject: 7619
Posted: 12 June 2007 at 8:57pm

ooooo that is SO not the MIL's job! ]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:57:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159622&title=what-will-change#159622 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159598&title=what-will-change#159598 Author: lizzle
Subject: 7619
Posted: 12 June 2007 at 8:48pm

i think the way this will impact is the prosecution of abuser. no longer be able to argue "reasonable force". the only impact I would think. hasn't cahnged the way I discipline the boys - we tend not to smack buyt my MIL has smacked the boys several times - much to my annoyance - and now I can use this as an excuise.]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:48:15 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159598&title=what-will-change#159598 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159346&title=what-will-change#159346 Author: Two Blondinis
Subject: 7619
Posted: 12 June 2007 at 2:29pm

I still stand by my initial view on this, it won't change a thing because are still people out there breaking laws that have been in place for years, this is just one more!

I personally think people who harm their children (and we all know I don't mean a "smack") should be charged with assult. Why should children have less rights than an adult who has the means to defend themselves?

Just my opinion]]> Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:29:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=159346&title=what-will-change#159346 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147377&title=what-will-change#147377 Author: Maya
Subject: 7619
Posted: 18 May 2007 at 6:56pm

I'm inclined to agree - it's not legal to kill people or break into houses, but there are still the small minority of the population who seemed to miss that class in school and think it's OK. Same goes for child abusers. The only thing that will make a difference IMO is education and support for the people who do abuse their kids, stuff like strengthening families etc. to break the cycle.]]> Fri, 18 May 2007 18:56:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147377&title=what-will-change#147377 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147310&title=what-will-change#147310 Author: caitlynsmygirl
Subject: 7619
Posted: 18 May 2007 at 4:56pm

yeah, usually i discipline caitlyn with time out or taking away priviledges but i will smack her if she is doing something that endangers herself, like when she ran onto the road, only had to do it once and shes never done it since, but i think that smacking in that situation is allowed in the bill.

However, im sorry but i really dont think its going to stop much child abuse,theres a huge difference between a smack and a whack, and i know there are people on here that probably dont smack at all, thats awesome and i take my hats off to ya , but some of us do, if weve found its the most effective way of discipling them , if its in regards to our childrens safety (well in my case anyway ) but we that smack know the difference between a smack and a punch-the parents that do punch i doubt have ever smacked with discipline in their childs life

Edited by caitlynsmygirl]]> Fri, 18 May 2007 16:56:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147310&title=what-will-change#147310 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147277&title=what-will-change#147277 Author: busymum
Subject: 7619
Posted: 18 May 2007 at 3:45pm

The legalise hasn't really changed, not like it was originally intended anyway, but it makes me think twice about when I do give my kids the odd swat. I don't do it heaps but if I'm up town, the next person isn't going to know that, and I guess after all the hype it makes me a little nervous.]]> Fri, 18 May 2007 15:45:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147277&title=what-will-change#147277 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147264&title=what-will-change#147264 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 7619
Posted: 18 May 2007 at 3:33pm

yeah but smacking inst really illegal....you can still use it as punishment..   to me there is no change and i am really disappointed.

it wont affect how i parent my children at all.]]> Fri, 18 May 2007 15:33:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147264&title=what-will-change#147264 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147252&title=what-will-change#147252 Author: caliandjack
Subject: 7619
Posted: 18 May 2007 at 3:14pm

Maybe now you can tell them that smaking is illegal. and you'll call the police if they do it again.. wont help your relationship with them, but sounds like not alot will.]]> Fri, 18 May 2007 15:14:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147252&title=what-will-change#147252 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147248&title=what-will-change#147248 Author: meow
Subject: 7619
Posted: 18 May 2007 at 3:04pm

Argh, tashzmum, I've heard many inlaw stories like that.. my MIL is not much different! I'm glad I BF for a year, as every time we went over there, I'd make sure Ella was on the boob so she couldn't try and feed her anything!]]> Fri, 18 May 2007 15:04:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147248&title=what-will-change#147248 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147243&title=what-will-change#147243 Author: tashzmum
Subject: 7619
Posted: 18 May 2007 at 2:57pm

i have told dfs parents time and time again nt to smack her but when i am not there or df isnt there they do what they want.tash doesnt go there anymore.
i have serious issues with dfs parents and the lack of respect they have for df and i as parents so we just dont leave her there any more.
i went completely nuts one day cos they gave her chocolate at 3 months old i was soo not happy. but they dont listen to a word df or i say. especially me. bloody inlaws(or out laws)]]> Fri, 18 May 2007 14:57:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147243&title=what-will-change#147243 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147193&title=what-will-change#147193 Author: busymum
Subject: 7619
Posted: 18 May 2007 at 1:33pm

Do you let them smack her? I wouldn't let my parents discipline my kiddies at all, their relationship (grandparents-kids) is so different from mine (mother-kids).]]> Fri, 18 May 2007 13:33:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147193&title=what-will-change#147193 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147180&title=what-will-change#147180 Author: tashzmum
Subject: 7619
Posted: 18 May 2007 at 1:15pm

i dont think it will. we dont smack anyway.maybe a light tap on the hand every now and then.
i tihnk it will make me more aware of how other people disciplin tash though as she stays with the grandparents quiet often and they are big smackers.]]> Fri, 18 May 2007 13:15:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147180&title=what-will-change#147180 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147169&title=what-will-change#147169 Author: busymum
Subject: 7619
Posted: 18 May 2007 at 12:46pm

The s59 repeal ("anti-smacking bill") was passed on Wednesday night and from in about a month's time, it will come into effect. Even though light smacking hasn't been specifically outlawed, the new wording is still a bit confusing IMO.

Question is, how will the law change affect your parenting?]]> Fri, 18 May 2007 12:46:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7619&PID=147169&title=what-will-change#147169