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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : No biggie suprise there, you certainly...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18347">topcat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 August 2007 at 6:44pm<br /><br />No biggie suprise there, you certainly arent the only one who have made such a suggestion.  Problem for us is its still too soon to think about anything past the "news" - its almost like losing someone, although we never even got that close to something happening.  DH has three older brothers, all of whom have children, so theres no hassle with the family line so to speak, and I guess thats why it also seems so unfair, why him?? The other issue for us is that we are both quite old fashioned and the idea of a child that is not my husbands just doesnt cut it... <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <br />Head not so high at the moment <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> but thanks for the hugs]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : Hi topcat I&amp;#039;m really sorry...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2583">busymum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 August 2007 at 8:32am<br /><br />Hi topcat I'm really sorry but in some ways I'm glad you have found out and not kept on hoping for 10 years etc. I have an elderly friend whose DH had no sperm count, they adopted 2 children and now have grandchildren. It must be a really hard situation and decisions that now face you, I wish you all the best in that.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : sorry again topcat, it doesnt...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10387">mum2emj</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 August 2007 at 6:27am<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> sorry again topcat, it doesnt seem fair.<br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : Thanks guys, went in for results...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18347">topcat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 August 2007 at 1:26am<br /><br />Thanks guys, went in for results of biopsy today and although we had already heard it was just as hard as it was last week, now it seems so final.  DH has rarish condition that means he cannot produce sperm at all so thats it for us.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;FA gace us three options, have no kids, adopt or I have a baby through donor sperm.  They said when we have had a chance to basically recover from the news come and have some counselling but at this stage it looks like no kids, as donor sperm for me is just a no go area. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : awe sorry to hear that topcat ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10387">mum2emj</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2007 at 10:18am<br /><br />awe sorry to hear that topcat <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : so sorry topcat!   big hugs for...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17545">noodle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2007 at 9:50am<br /><br />so sorry topcat! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> big hugs for you and DH!  ]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : sorry to hear that top cat. I...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16254">AnnC</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2007 at 9:49am<br /><br />sorry to hear that top cat. I understand you being upset and the feeling of time running out. But my friend just gave eggs to a 43 year old their first child (I know its the opposite of sperm) and they are pregnant first pop with twins.. So your never too old <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : 1st lot of results in...  they...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18347">topcat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2007 at 9:44am<br /><br />1st lot of results in...  they still couldnt find any sperm at all, we both gutted <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <br />Go in next week to discuss and see if they could find a reason why]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 09:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : Dam!  That long - its crazy isnt...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18347">topcat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2007 at 12:27am<br /><br />Dam!  That long - its crazy isnt it... <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : Oh that is so not fair I know...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18050">kiwigirrl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 August 2007 at 6:08pm<br /><br />Oh that is so not fair I know you must both be devastated.  I just found out that the waiting list at Fert Ass in Auckland is 18 months and its growing expenetionally (is that spelt right!) and that the wait is 12 Months at Fertility Plus so we are deciding whether to change clinics. ]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : Yes, we had the biopsy done today,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18347">topcat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 01 August 2007 at 5:54pm<br /><br />Yes, we had the biopsy done today, a bit more to it than we thought with two decent incisions (not just a needle) and they took out some tissue samples to test for swimmers as well as rule out any pathology, poor DH is sore and sorry but will hopefully find out more tomorrow <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : Big hugs to you Topcat      I...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18208">pikelets</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 July 2007 at 4:26pm<br /><br />Big hugs to you Topcat <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I also think its worth doing the biopsy.  Sure its $1800 but its worth it - otherwise you will never know if there are any in there.  And think if there are a couple in there that you could freeze, you could have a chance at IVF/ICSI.  <br /><br />Good luck to you both hun <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : Thanks for all the hugs guys...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18347">topcat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 July 2007 at 4:22pm<br /><br />Thanks for all the hugs guys  and thanks too Ginger, we didnt think to ask many questions as we both looked and felt like we had been hit by a train when he broke the news.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Biopsy is on Wednesday, results some time after that, guess we will make an appt then and discuss the findings.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br />Crazy about the waiting list aye, we are in Auckland, maybe Tauranga should take some of the overflow, sure there are plenty of people who would travel down for it.<br />Anyway will keep you posted with how we get along.<br /><br />Dh wasnt sure if he even wanted to consider IVF, but at least having this done, leaves that option open, but now has really come around to the idea. We are keen to do much past about 35-36yrs for me though, so thats where my cooment about my current age versus waiting list comes from<br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : The cut off is based on the woman&amp;#039;s...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16201">ginger</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 July 2007 at 11:46am<br /><br />The cut off is based on the woman's age, and it's 40 topcat, so you've got a way to go yet.<br /><br />I think it's worth it to do the biopsy because even if there are a couple in there, you can move ahead with IVF - what they do is suck the little wrigglers out of the testes (or whereever they are I suppose) with a needle, and do ICSI from there.<br /><br />I am so sorry for the bad news <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0">  We're thinking of you, and keeping things crossed for you.<br /><br />Depending on where you are in NZ, I think Auckland's is the longest waiting list at about 1 year.  Tauranga is the best from what I gather - with no waiting list at all!! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0">  ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17545">noodle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 July 2007 at 5:37pm<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> hun]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10278">james</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 July 2007 at 4:16pm<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2583">busymum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 July 2007 at 2:09pm<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : Thanks we are both gutted, it...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18347">topcat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 July 2007 at 1:46pm<br /><br />Thanks we are both gutted, it wasnt what we thought we might hear... We were in two minds whether to have the biospy or not, at $1800 its not cheap and we could still have the same outcome, but at least we will know and if they do find something then maybe theres a slim chance.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Worried about how long the waiting list is for public treatment if we are  even eligible as I am already 33yr6mo.<br />All my family and friends are all ok, have children so no-one to discuss with.. we have both had some sleepless nights lately <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[No sperm count : Does anyone have any experience...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18347">topcat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 9470<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 July 2007 at 1:16pm<br /><br />Does anyone have any experience with this issue?<br />We kinda thought we would be told by specialist that DH had slow, low or lazy sperm, not NONE!!!!<br />DH is booked for a biopsy next week to see if any can be find, if so they will freeze and I guess then will see if can go on wait list for Pub funded tx]]>
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